Lain 10 Posted March 3, 2012 Share Posted March 3, 2012 (edited) Hey everyone, my first post on this forum, now lets get to business, This will probably only interest you if you have a mac, but anyones welcome to read lol, so i just wondering if anyone knows/ or is interested in playing eroge on OS X, Im already doing so with a virtual machine (parallels) but also found out recently that I can run windows program (eroge) with wineskin winery and make them independently run without the use of a virtual machine and make them work as a mac app. I've managed to port Kanon, but its a little buggy. Maybe we can port some games 2 mac? idk Anyone want to know more? Ideas? Comments? If anyone is familiar with wineskin, perhaps you could help me out? Thanks for reading. Oh and heres the url to the wineskin site: http://wineskin.doh123.com/ Edited March 3, 2012 by Lain typo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Hi! eroge on the Mac OSX is such a niche segment of the game population...I've used Wineskin as well to "port" some eroge games to OSX, with different degrees of success...since I'm no expert @porting... Haven't tried the classic Kanon, but just tried with "school days hq", and it seems to work ok...there's now an official patch on jastusa.com...haven't patched mine, but since I haven't gone thru the whole game, I can only say that it seems to work ok in windowed mode...don't like playing visual novels in full screen...some other games on top of my head that seem to work in Wineskin are: Dengeki Stryker, Harem Party, Bible Black, Go Go Nippon, Quartett!, etc...the ones that are hairy to get Wineskin to run are the 3D ones...Illusion games come to mind...most of the games have broken models, disjointed limbs...I've only seen a couple ones running with ok graphics, like Biko 3, Schoolmate 2, Des Blood 4, Real Girlfriend... If you got a game working/ported, let us know here...how you did it...! It'd be nice to have a list of playable eroge games on OSX via Wineskin, and how to get them running, if there are any extra steps...! Cheers! Edited August 8, 2012 by yamete888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lain 10 Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 Haha, thanks for replying yamete. You've definitely got a point about eroge on OSX being very uncommon, but I still support the idea of being able to play them on a mac as easily as on a pc. I actually haven't done any porting of any eroge for a while now (last one i did was kanon but i probably lost it), but if you're still interested, maybe we can try a port a few games properly? Let me know what you think. kupo~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Lain, now I remember something about kanon...sometime way back, I remember seeing (my memory is flaky, so don't know where I found it), an already english-patched, and ps2-voice-patched version that ran ootb on Wineskin...but I was always more into the official English releases from major publishers, so didn't pay much attention to it & ditched it...don't remember doing anything xtra to get the eroge games I've mentioned to work on OSX (via Wineskin, of course)...so, you might wanna try some of them? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hello. I too have a mac that I play VNs on. I just use my VM for most of them. The only problem is that it's kind of slow. It takes a long time to start up, and then it slows down my computer somewhat when it's running. It works fine as long as I don't have a lot of apps that require lots of memory or cpu power running at the same time (e.g. media players or bit torrent clients). Lots of doujin games have Mac versions. Katawa Shoujo is one, for example, and there are many others. Finding commercial mac releases is harder. Here's a list of English Mac VNs from vndb: vndb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi Dan...! I don't use VM or bootcamp to run eroge (though VM or Bootcamp would provide the most compatible experience), since VM or Bootcamp requires a full license on Windows, for VM, extra resources like memory, drive space...and for bootcamp, it basically turns your mac into a pc, so there's nothing mac-like about your mac which in bootcamp. Thanks for the vndb list...! Mainly "indie" eroge games...some look quite professional though...! Ah! there's also the Ren'Py engine, which people are also creating many eroge games too! (OSX version included!): The Ren'Py Visual Novel Engine My focus is on official, English-localized eroge games from major publishers...so that I don't have to set my Wineskin locale to Japanese, or install unofficial English patches (if available) within Wineskin... It'd be exciting to see if ATLAS work in Wineskin to translate on-the-fly untranslated eroge games...though of course, we can't expect a perfect translation... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 Hi Dan...! I don't use VM or bootcamp to run eroge (though VM or Bootcamp would provide the most compatible experience), since VM or Bootcamp requires a full license on Windows, for VM, extra resources like memory, drive space...and for bootcamp, it basically turns your mac into a pc, so there's nothing mac-like about your mac which in bootcamp. Thanks for the vndb list...! Mainly "indie" eroge games...some look quite professional though...! Ah! there's also the Ren'Py engine, which people are also creating many eroge games too! (OSX version included!): The Ren'Py Visual Novel Engine My focus is on official, English-localized eroge games from major publishers...so that I don't have to set my Wineskin locale to Japanese, or install unofficial English patches (if available) within Wineskin... It'd be exciting to see if ATLAS work in Wineskin to translate on-the-fly untranslated eroge games...though of course, we can't expect a perfect translation... About the windows license, there are ways around that. I use windows xp because it doesn't take nearly as many system resources to run it, and since it's older, getting around needing a license is easier. Katawa Shoujo is a game that's built on Ren'Py, and it's very well done. I've only played the trial version (before the full one was completed), but it was pretty good. You should try it if you want good games for Mac. The Ren'Py website has several games on it of varying degrees of quality; you should check it out. If you only want commercial games, this link will only show the commercial releases: vndb Oh, and one of the members of doki, the group translating Tomoyo After, has made installers for Mac and Linux, for when it's released. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted August 11, 2012 Share Posted August 11, 2012 (edited) Agreed, Katawa Shoujo looks awesome & professional from an independent group using Ren'Py! Right now, I'm looking forward to port other eroge games...since Wineskin was updated last week, will try again to see if Suika A.S+ (水夏A.S+) still works with the new wrapper...love the opening theme (Fragment), and would be cool to see the intro moov & song on the newer Wineskin...though youtube has it too! Chances are that it'll work...! After that, I might want to re-port some of my old fave games that I did b4 I started using Wineskin, using wrappers I downloaded from portingteam.com, which is an excellent site, since that's how I was introduced to the world of porting...even though this is a low priority... Edited August 12, 2012 by yamete888 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lain 10 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Thanks again for the answers yamete and dan, I'll give those options a try. What sort of mac are you guys using? I have a 2010 MB and am also currently using Parallels with XP to play eroge, it works pretty smoothly even with other apps, although the bottom can heat up a little. Anyways, thanks for the suggestions guys, i'll try porting games again with wineskin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Thanks again for the answers yamete and dan, I'll give those options a try. What sort of mac are you guys using? I have a 2010 MB and am also currently using Parallels with XP to play eroge, it works pretty smoothly even with other apps, although the bottom can heat up a little. Anyways, thanks for the suggestions guys, i'll try porting games again with wineskin. I have a 2010 lowest level macbook pro. As long as you don't try to run any cpu-intensive apps at the same time, my vm works fine. I also get the bottom heating up, but it's not too bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desi 53 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I have an early 2008 version of the MBP. I use boot camp... works fine for me. It's beneficial having both operating systems without having to allocate RAM and what not, in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 I have an early 2008 version of the MBP. I use boot camp... works fine for me. It's beneficial having both operating systems without having to allocate RAM and what not, in my opinion. Win XP doesn't need too much RAM and VNs don't use too much either. With a VM I don't have to restart my computer all the time and I can keep things running - downloads, for example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desi 53 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Win XP doesn't need too much RAM and VNs don't use too much either. With a VM I don't have to restart my computer all the time and I can keep things running - downloads, for example. Ah.... guess I should have been a bit more clear. I was referring to more than just VNs. It's a pretty bad idea, but I occasionally game on my laptop... boot camp works the best for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted August 12, 2012 Share Posted August 12, 2012 Ah.... guess I should have been a bit more clear. I was referring to more than just VNs. It's a pretty bad idea, but I occasionally game on my laptop... boot camp works the best for that. I see. I really only use windows for VNs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lain 10 Posted August 12, 2012 Author Share Posted August 12, 2012 Everyone has their preference lol, I used to use bootcamp too, but I couldn't access my mac files, so I had to go with a vm. I also like the idea of running win and osx at the same time. Unfortunately i've been rather busy, so I haven't had a chance to port games in some time. I've been kinda busy getting emanga, it works especially well with android phones. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted August 13, 2012 Share Posted August 13, 2012 I have a white, unibody MacBook circa 2010 (the last one that came out, b4 Apple axing the white MacBook line...bought it from ebay)...I've upgraded it to 8gb & 500gb HD...at least it's supported under Mountain Lion 10.8...hopefully it can still run OSX 10.9 or 10.10...whatever it's called by then... The regular VNs don't take much resources, but when the stuffs becomes 3D, then OSX might experience some slow down...I believe Wine (or Wineskin) uses only 1 core from a dual core cpu...don't think VNs' format is going to change too drastically soon, so the regular 2D graphics will still be with us for some time...making OSX still a very viable platform to play unofficial "ported" games... Talking about porting, found a site recently that is about "porting" eroge games using Wineskin: http://mac-eroge.hostingsiteforfree.com It has a lot of links to "porting" tutorials using Wineskin, eroge reviews, eroge vendors, and ported eroges... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lain 10 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 (edited) Hey guys, i've a question to ask you. Is anyone here familiar enough with wine to lend me a hand with running some VNs, I'd be very grateful for a little advice. And thanks for the info on the sites, found some good info on the paulthetalll website. Edited August 22, 2012 by Lain Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yamete888 10 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Hi! just checked Warning! Adult Content! and it looks like they added "Doushin - Same Heart" as a port-able game to OSX...so, right now, on the site, there are 3 games ported, and looks like a 4th one coming up (Amorous Professor Cherry), even though the info isn't up on the main page, but a screenshot of the game is in the photo gallery section of the site... So, if you are planning to get some VN, at least those "work"...or if you already have them, then you know there are good chances the VNs would work in your environment... I'm not a Wine/Wineskin expert, it's a hit or miss kinda deal...really would love to see more Mac users come out, and "share their notes" on playing eroge without VMs...! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lain 10 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Share Posted September 19, 2012 Thanks for replying and for the info, I managed to get most of them to run, except for the ones that need applocale. Hope they add a region locale function in future releases of wine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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