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Subarashiki hibi = Complete mindfuck. Not sure if it's a good idea to translate it, but regardless, it has some scenes and some moments that'll leave you brain-dead for hours, it's fucked up in many senses of the word lol. P,S the protagonist is a female btw.

Holyshit, you're back yet again, only to make a bigger fool out of yourself? Wow dude, so on top of contradicting yourself like a brainless troll, you're also a hypocrite? good going man, good going. And no, i'll keep coming here as long as there are trolls like you to keep me amused with their extreme idiocy. And FYI, you're pretty much the only one who's "disagree'ing" with me (Yet you keep going around in circles and contradicting yourself over and over like a hysterical maniac). Uhh...Okay? Let's assume i made an account just to make this thread, You've got a problem with that? "What the hell is he doing here anyway" That's a question i should be asking. What on the fucking seventh hell are you fucking doing here? Do you have shit to do beside trolling on this thread? For fuck's sake, grow a pair kid, you're a disgrace to the humans. Btw mods, We really need a Report button next to the Reply/Quote one.

You're still here? "and i'm a fucking guy, who respect woman who understand how the world works, and stand firm on their believe. just because everyone here happens to agree on you, you think everyone out there agree with you?" Lol what? Respecting women and standing up for an immature internet twat are two different things, and you're definitely not doing the former. Also, understand how the world works? What the fuck? Oh no, No fuck no, you don't understand shit because if you did you wouldn't have posted such utter bullshit. Oh and by the way, i really doubt you're a guy. "she's played more than 100 titles, that means she has to love otome games. just most of the kind she played has no sex in them. then she's looking for an adult one, an r-18 title. and all she can find was bunch op rape scenario. she's just want some straight romance and some straight sex, where woman wont be defiled in grotesque way." What the fuck is that supposed to mean? "Straight romance and some straight sex"??? Uhh, Does it say anywhere that Otome game is a lesbian or gay game? Because as far as i'm concerned, it's a guy and a girl going at it. "AGAIN THIS DOESN'T have anything to do with who's this game was created for. it's about her love for otome game, and those expectation fall short. so she post it, review it for other people to see. people like you who disagree with it, instead following your own advice about not caring about them. decide to come here on male centered bishoujo game forum, bash her, and laugh about how wrong she was." Yes it does, she's basically insulting the japanese culture (And not the japanese culture, but pretty much most cultures and the preferences of alot of people), and bashing the companies, she's saying that those games don't appeal to her and they must make games with what she likes so she can be happy and leave the majority hanging. Wtf? "and i'm not a native english speaker, so you might misunderstand something. the reference to californication and 9 1/2 weeks is about someone state of mind. she's a straight girl who's not like weird thing who also happen to love otome games." Dude, seriously, if you were right here close to me i'd burn the living shit out of you. " she's a straight girl who's not like weird thing who also happen to love otome games" Holyfucking shit, WE KNOW SHE'S NOT A LESBIAN OR TRANSEXUAL, SHE'S A STRAIGHT GIRL, OTOME GAMES ARE FOR STRAIGHT GIRLS, RIGHT? and weird? What the hell? She's beyond weird, she's probably the weirdest female internet user i have ever seen. and no, she does not love otome games, otherwise that stupid, pointless ranting article of her wouldn't exist in the first place. "of course woman like that would have love these kind of otome game, and accept it. but not her she's not a woman like that. not in her head. she finds that repulsive." THEN WHY THE FUCK PLAY IT IN THE FIRST PLACE? YOU DON'T LIKE A SPECIFIC THING, YOU STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM IT, INSTEAD OF BASHING IT AND OFFENDING EVERYONE AROUND YOU. "and if i had to choose which woman i like. i prefer straight woman like her to be my girlfriend and wife. we will have a nice and boring little family like everyone else." You keep saying "straight woman" But what the fuck is that supposed to mean? Do you have some kind of paranoi of lesbians or something? Or is there some other kind of women sexuality that we don't fucking know of? I doubt you're a guy anyway, since i'm so fucking sure there's no guy out there who'd want a girl like that, an immature little prude ignorant bitch, that's not what men want, not in the fucking seventh hell. and No, don't group other people with your fantasies, "boring little family" is not what you'll get from a girl like her, and don't generalise, not "everyone else" wants to live a fucked up life. "what's with the age reference man? you think you so old and mature and wise and know everything?" No, i don't think i'm "so old and mature", but i certainly know better than YOU. Holyshit man, reading your post first thing in the morning. fuck. i think i should just sleep off the day, it's a shitty one. That'd be much fucking apperciated, before that though, we need a mod to delete inthesky's retarded posts and everyone'll be happy. exactly my reaction when i woke up this morning and the first thing i read is inthesky's reply. I don't want to "keep it strong", i already left the thread before, but this inthesky guy (Or perhaps girl is more appropriate?) is pissing me off, he has no fucking common sense and you just can't sit there and watch while he writes some utter bullshit.

Well yeah, that's why i said i kind of understand what you're trying to say. That's what we all thought, but then inthesky showed up.

I'm not sure where you're getting at, but i think i kind of understand what you mean. Those R-18 Otome games might be the result of the otome gamers having a rape fantasy or something (Heck, i know girls in real life who have a rape/forced sex fantasy...FUCIN HELL, MY GIRLFRIEND HAS ONE). And let's face it, it's natural for a woman to want a strong and dominant male no matter how you look at it, what would a pansy sissy do? make her a sandwich? and when she's in danger? he's gonna run away or stay and get his ass beaten up? Dominant males are hot shit when it comes to the female market. Lol, she might be just that, putting up an innocent moralfag's face while deep inside she's an extreme masochist, I swear that's a high possibility. I'm a guy and i have some masochist fantasies. if some old woman forced me to have sex with her i'd sumbit like there's no tomorrow. She doesn't even need a VN database, there is always a Book that comes with the game disc to guide you, and there's always info on the official site. Well, as we all know, Female domination is just another niche genre within the porn industry, Not much demand on it, also, she's an otome gamer, not an eroge gamer, Femdom is almost non-existent in Otome games (Duh, the target is the female market, No pansies), aside from Otome games though, it is uncommon even in nukiges, although you might find some subtle femdom in many eroges (e.g a Teacher calls her student afterschool to classroom, closes the door, and forces a handjob on him lol, this one's common on many eroges). As for Yuri, Well it's not that it never fails to give female domination, it's just that one of the girls has to be the "guy", if you know what i mean. But Then again, authentic yuri femdom is always there. Not to mention Futanari, gotta love them Futas scaring the living crap out of them schoolgirls then turn them into nymphos, always good fap material. I know that her opinion is irrelevant and shit, but sometimes trolls take it too far, i couldn't just stand there and watch the idiocy and ignorance spread lol. P,S as for the harem thing, it depends really, the reason some Harem animes look unrealistic is because some protagonists are so fucking weak beyond fucking human belief and they get the hottest girls chasing after their nuts, While some of the best and most badass protagonists barely get some powerless farthead schoolgirl chasing him and making him bento lol. Although there are some good harems, For example Isekai no seikishin monogatari, the Protagonist may look like your usual average shota, but in reality he's the strongest character in the whole anime, when he gets serious, you're basically fucked. There's also Darker than black, i don't need to say anything about this one, Hei is so much win. And many more, it's just that most good harems start out with the protagonists being your typical highschooler, then he gets some hax power and some character growth, then the harem starts, that's what i call good harem, not some random pansy getting hotties just by existing, wtf? lol

Believe it or not, i'm not usually a person who gets pissed off easily, But this is silly beyond frigging human belief. granted i had those moments when i acted like a total jerk, but how much can one take? This is the first time i've seen such ignorance and this is the first i've been pissed to this extent...I don't know man, i think i'll need to go stick my head in the fridge to calm down, else i'll end up killing someone ._.

@inthesky You just wasted yours and everyone's time here dude. She doesn't like it? Simple, Don't fucking play the game. The fact that those games sold, are selling, and WILL sell is still there and a random immature internet twat's ranting won't change that fact, She's a foreigner god dammit, unless she's part of the japanese otaku culture and supports the companies and follows them, she has no fucking right to criticize their shit whatsoever, so stop spitting nonsense because this is really pissing me off, i left this thread for a fucking week hoping the arguement will end and what i get is another troll, i'm sorry, don't take it as an offense, but you really ruined my day, or rather, my fucking month. "Maybe other girls in japan or anywhere else had these kind of fetishes, but that's irrelevant to the discussion." ...How old are you, 10? "She want' to dominate men in R-18 otome, not be dominated" Well that's a problem, Because that's physically impossible unless the male is extremely submissive or she has superpowers in which fucking case is not something you see often. That and the developers are trying to make it realistic and belieavable, on top of it being targeted for the FEMALE AUDIENCE AND ITS FUCKING JAPANESE, NOT FOR 10 YEAR OLD IMMATURE FOREIGN PRUDE GIRLS. On the other hand, There are a fuckton of eroges with women forcing boys and blackmailing them to have intercourse with them, But do you see anyone bitching about it and insulting other cultures for it? Is there any fucking article on the fucking internet complaining about anything related to Eroge's at all? (Even if there is, i fucking bet it's at least reasonable). Fucking sweet cow. "well from the way she wrote those things, i think she's one of the good girls you know. personally i don't want my wife to have a weird sexual fetishes do you, anal sex and shit, maybe some fucking cucumber once in while. like californication then? or 9 1/2 weeks? Shit that fucking scary." I can't believe you just said that, i just...wow.................................................Fucking wow. is Anyone else beside me thinking "Burn that troll"? "The excessive sex and everything is just like substitute for porn." FUCKING HELLO? YOU'RE PLAYING A PORN GAME, WITH ADULT CONTENT, WITH SEX, WHAT THE FUCK? "by the way, i defended them not beacuse everyone entitled to their opinion. not because they are feminist. i hate feminist, hate them so much." Well first of all, you didn't really "defend" them, you just made a fool out of yourself. second of all, No you're not a feminist, i can tell, you're just a troll, because even the most extreme man-hating feminist wouldn't go as far as to descriminate other cultures and people's preferences, especially not something targeted at THEM. plus i don't see how this has anything to do with feminism, it's just a bunch of ignorant preteen girls looking for attention. and FYI Lijakaca's Post was 100 times better than the other one, it's justified (Despite some utter bullshit) and does make a tad bit of sense. I'd really apperciate if you go get yourself educated before posting, again, don't take it as an offense, but right now my mood is pretty fucked up thanks to you.

Lol you sure you're quoting the right person? ultimecea was the one who said there's a PC version. I hear ya bro. Well, quality is definitely better than quantity. Also, Both jast and mangagamer mostly license regular 10-30 Hour eroge, Mangagamer has barely 3 Nukiges if i remember, not sure abou Jast though, i've only seen their regular ones. Oh yes, i remember them making a fuss about White album 2 on a japanese blog.

CRAP!! Why did they go for the Ps2? Damn it. Uhh yeah i know, but Those two are one of the very few ones on here that are popular in japan. Definitely checking rewrite. Fortune arterial is not really that good, but like you said, to each his own. And yes, Amaterasu translations do pick good VN's, thanks to them i got to play Muv luv. Lol apparently Majikoi is worth checking, it was the top selling eroge of 2009, and it's pretty long and entertaining with good H-scenes and story. played partial patch, gonna wait for full.

Lol sorry but when did i say they must translate only Nukiges? exactly, everyone has different tastes. but the fact that what you wrote is merely YOUR opinion is still there. I'd apperciate if you speak for yourself, a great story line is a must, But just because an eroge has a good story doesn't mean the H-scenes should be thrown away or made crappy, after all, it's called "Ero-ge" Ero-gemu for a reason. And there is no Amagami for the PC...proves you know nothing. Yup, Nukiges are very popular in japan and they do sell well, the fact they're also slightly cheapter than regular eroge's also plays a big part in the sales. Not to mention most H-animes are adapted from Nukiges. again, Speak for yourself, Not everyone here plays eroge's for the story and vice versa, though i do understand that there's a big culture difference between the west and japan, which is why japan is far ahead and is successful in the anime industry while us foreigners will probably never even attempt to create an eroge. Eroge! isn't really that great, the only thing going for it is the comedy and the "Eroge company" concept, the H-scenes were totally crap, nothing vanilla or worth fapping to there. I really doubt the "great minds" part ;/

Man, no offense but, why do they always pick the crappy and unpopular games to translate? Arudoc is pretty much the only one that translates good shit (Kamidori was in Top 5 selling games of 2011 and it had decent H-scenes). Mangagamer will have to stop their shit sooner or later, they rarely translate nukiges, and when they do pick up one, it turns out to be shitty. Only thing worth checking here is Grisaia no Kajitsu and probably Dracu-riot, at least i'm certain Grisaia was popular in japan and its sequel was among the top 5 of 2011 along with Kamidori. Oh and Baldr also, Not top sales, but still decent nonetheless. Anyone knows if The amagami being translated is the PSP one?

There is no "best eroge". There are different types and genres of eroges to fit your tastes and preferences. Like they say, someone's garbage could be another's treasure.

Yeah i know, it's inevitable, i understand it's difficult to give an opinion without bashing the article writer. her immatureness is just calling for it. regardless though, Anything is welcome. MOAR OPINIONS. MOAR.

Alright. enough with the bashing, although the fact that the article writer needs to lighten up and change her immature mindset is still there. Discussion is still going guys, give us your opinions.

Lol you actually made my day with the sims thing and the last line, and i thank you for that, i had good laughs ;P Well i wouldn't call you mentally immature. a mentally immature person is basically a naive person, but more than naive, ignorant and incosiderate, i guess that fits her criteria. Exactly, which is why, as you said, she needs to go back to reading shoujo manga or something. even all ages otome games are probably too much for her, but what can you do, some people are just unbelieavable.

Yeah that too, but immature doesn't necessarily mean she's physically not matured, it also means that she's mentally immature. She also claims that she has a husband, which i really, really doubt.

Haha, oh well, immature people are just immature and apparently they'll stay that way for as long as they live.

Yeah i get what you mean, like i said, everyone's different. Well, MGQ is "unique", if that's the appropriate word to describe it, I myself find it hot and kinky when a mature/older woman has sex with a young boy but with the whole Monster girl crazy rape thingie, i just found myself more confused lol. but don't get me wrong, it's quite the unique eroge. and the RPG system was totally worth giving it a shot. So how did it start? they just saw this article and went trollrage mode? I guess the truth is just too harsh for some people.

Oh trust me, i've seen all the otome games she played, and i doubt there is anything else she didn't play lol Yeah, Footjobs is one of the niche fetishes, meaning while alot of people might find it unappealing or gross, the fact that people who enjoy it exist is still there. Yeah, but if you think about it, it's not just common in 18+ games or 18+ material in general, most of it is common in our daily life aswell. but what can you do, there are all kinds of people in this world. Holy-! i almost died when you said monster girl quest lol, seriously, you deserve a medal for enduring that game, i actually stopped playing it early on, it was something i've never seen before. regardless though, i think it's good to have something new for people who're into that stuff. Btw just wondering, when you said you were talking to those fans, you mean that article writer's fans seen this post and were trying to argue with you?