pumasrevenge

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Characters - There are a few interesting ones in there, but all in all, not that good. For me, Miku was the most interesting of the bunch and as such her route ended up being the best one aswell.

You're speaking out of my heart. And I totally hated Miou, but Rizu wasn't much better.

I got to say, Duel Saviour bad ending is pretty good. A 3.5/5 for the bad ending.

After playing Mia's route, it only can be a "good" bad ending

I've learned my lessons the hard way. Never again will I read spoilers. ;_;

I don't have problems with reading spoilers. Before playing a new one, I always look at a review to find out what happens at the end. Mostly this is the last paragraph of a review and I read from the bottom to the top, only to stop on the point where I think I know enough to like the ending

Cross Channel is the reason why I'm like this. Man, they could leave it at the ending of the first day, this ending would be definitely better than the "true ending".

I ll try going through another rute

but if that work can i change routes after thet point

i was in the berio route

I think you have to clear the route first if you aim for another route. I think you would get a bad ending if you follow the walkthrough for Kaede's route until this chapter and then continue with the walkthrough for Berio's route.

But anyway, you have to complete Berio's, Kaede's, Nanashi's and Rico's route to unlock Lily's route and then Mia's route. If you absolutely don't want to play Kaede's route, you must use a savegame. I would recommend you to download mine and load Save01 (this is the savegame after completing Berio's route) and then you can play Berio's route again if you want to play it.

the nigth after the fight with kaede the game crashes after kaede starst saying

'W-W-W-W-W-What ar you doing here?'

i alredy use the quick fix

anybody know how to fix that??

Try to begin the route from the start again or try another route (for example, if you are on Kaede's route, try Berio's route, if you already did her route, then try Nanashi's route).

If the other routes also won't work, try to reinstall the game.

Have you tried on another PC?

You can try to use my savegame from the first post too.

"Finished" Duel Savior yesterday.

To be true, I skipped three routes completely (Berio's, Nanashi's and Rico's). Berio's, Kaede's, Nanashi's and Rico's routes only are preparations and explanations for Lily's and Mia's route. Lily's route is much more extensive than the routes before and there's much more story. Mia's route is completely different than Lily's, but I liked Lily's route more. And the harem route was completely different too, but it was definitely the best route of the game

The negative points of the game: Chapter 1 to 3 is completely equal for each character after you've cleared Berio's and Kaede's route and chapter 4 to 7 is nearly the same too. In the end you can skip nearly 90% of the text from chapter 1 to 7 after clearing Kaede's and Berio's route. And yeah, you can't skip battles, which makes the whole thing really bad. From chapter 8 on the story is different in each route.

The next thing I have to criticize is the variation of the endings ... after you've cleared two routes you somehow know how each route will end.

The best thing in the whole game: LILY!

I'm not gonna pretend to have good knowledge of DirectX stuff, but i do know that having some newer/latest DirectX versions installed does not necesarily mean you have all the old versions required for some games to run installed. I've seen people have this problem for a game like Fallout/Fallout2.

I know, therefore some games have the DirectX version which is needed at the installation included, but not every game. And if you want to play an older game which needs for example DirectX 9 and you're using DirectX 11 (actual version of DirectX) there can be problems, without a doubt. But you can't uninstall DirectX like any other game/program, since it's not listed under the program list, which means you can't install an older version that easily, since you get the message about the newer version which is installed. It's possible to uninstall DirectX, yeah, but it's not that easy in comparison to other programs.

Probably something to do with the version you used (perhaps one of them 'bare bones' versions) or a lack of something else (probably some old DX versions but they can be found on the net). Ive installed various oldie games from 96, 98, etc in W7 Ultimate without any or very little problems.

I'm only using the original disc for older games, since I can get them really cheap and the old games are the best ones in my opinion (like AoE, Cossacks, etc.). And no, I can't have used old DirectX versions, because I wrote the MS support about the DirectDraw error and they send me the download link for DirectX ... "You have installed this or a newer version of DirectX already." (don't know the exact message since my language is set to German).

Solution for people who get the direct draw error if they're using Windows XP - Run in compatibility mode under Windows 95. Highly doubt it will work for Windows 8 users, but you can try it.

Thx for the info, added it to the first post.

Anybody know how to unlock endless mode? I was thinking I'd just have to beat one of the routes but that didn't work. I get the feeling it's something obvious since no one else asked here or seiha's forums.

You must clear all routes before you can unlock the endless mode.

people better stop using windows trialware just because it looks more "interesting" and because all the bullshit M******** throws at you

better use windows 7 or good ol' windows xp (never disappoint me) if you only want to play eroge (more stable, more everything)

if you really wanna use windows 8 and you have patience just wait about two weeks for it to get release officially (schedule release on October 26, 2012)

This problem exists on the official release too, because DirectX.11 has not all features from the previous ones. The advantage of Win8: Older games (from 1995 and younger) work just fine again. I wanted to install over eight games from 2002 and before, but none of them worked on Win7.

In fact, the best solution for this problem is to install VirtualBox and run it in XP, but Win8 is definitely better than Win7 regarding (very) old/er games.

I hate this game I cant get [bBERIO'S PATH to work!

I have already did Kaede and Rico.

I have tried it my way, then tried using a walkthrough,then my way mixed with the walkthrough.(Nothing Works)

Each time I have to do those stupid fights I done 600 times over and over,Just to get to chapter 8 and she doesn't go to the city with me.I don't even like her character but I need to do her rout.

GOD CAN I TURN THE BATTLE SYSTEM OFF.THAT SHOULD ALWAYS BE AN OPTION AFTER YOU BEAT THE GAME ONCE OR IT LEAST GIVE ME THE OPTION TO SKIP UNIMPORTANT BATTLES!

Here is a save with the complete Berio, Kaede, Rico, Nanashi, Lily and Mia (normal and true) route. Didn't play the harem route so far, therefore there's still one h-scene missing in the replay menu. Furthermore, I don't know if I'll play the survival mode (you get five CG's if you reach level 200 in Survival) and I don't know if there are some CG's from the character routes missing.

Save 01 - After completing Berio's route

Save 02 - After completing Kaede's route

Save 03 - After completing Rico's route

Save 04 - After completing Nanashi's route

Save 05 - After completing Lily's route

Save 06 - After completing Mia's normal route

Save 07 - After completing Mia's true route

That means, if you load Save 04 for example, you can go on with Lily's route and then Mia's true ending (after Mia's good ending) if you want to see them.

Or if you load Save 07, you can go on with the harem route for example.

The CG's and replay scenes are saved in the config file, that means, if you only want the CG's (or h-scenes), you just have to overwrite the config file.

And no, you can't turn the battles off. Just change the difficulty to "Little girl"

has anyone been able to find a solution for this?

Unfortunately not, only the possible solutions which are quoted. Are you using Win8?

Just done with FateSN's UBW route. Well, that was my goal from the start, all I wanted is the tsun-tsun Rin anyway. And I wanted Shirou to redeem himself from being a pussyfag back in Fate, but I guess it falls flat of my expectations. I couldn't really enjoy the "identity twist" since my baka imouto spoiled it to me (she's watched the anime already, that bitch). Is HF worth the read? Not a big fan of Sakura though, she's too deredere for me. I would have preferred an Ilya loli route...

Skipped everything until a specific point, then I read everything. I wanted to play only Rin's route too, but I thought at least I should try it out ... and it was better as I thought it would be

ama ane is just a 6-7 to me based on the looks and stuff..

i havent start that yet too..

There's one reason why I gave it an 8, and this is exactly the reason why I said you shouldn't judge based on the description. The description is based on the good endings, but if you want to know everything, you need to get the bad ending too, and that is also a bit from the dark side.

whats the name of that specific vn if i may know...

Here.

And Ama Ane is also a good example. Ok, the average score is only in the same area as the one from Demonbane, but yeah, just look at the other rankings. And please, don't say anything about the story, it's much more complicated than the description says, because they only says half of the story.

Like in every genre, there are mostly better ones out there, you only have to search for them. And maybe you need to learn a bit japanese

>.>

COD is in a total different genre..

unless you dont even understands genre..then i have no words to say.

Did you read the whole post? I only brought this up in connection with "scores don't mean anything", nothing else. Or did I compare the story or something like that?

So,you are the happy-ending guy then muv-luv is not your thing.

Not really,

No,they did have significant meaning.Scores are voted by players like us so VN with high score literally means many people like it .The reason why some VN are underrated is because they don't have translation so no-one rated it .

And exactly that's the reason why the scores on vndb doesn't mean anything (or at least not much) for me, since I play eroges without a translation too. Ok, maybe for someone who only plays english ones it's meaningful, but I played japanese ones which were much better than Demonbane (this is only an example out of your list), but on vndb it's more than 100 ranks lower, the average score however is much higher than the one from Demonbane.

And yeah, I don't want to start a discussion here since this is a site for english eroges (mostly), but yeah, that's my opinion. And I think I'm not the only one with this opinion about the scores on vndb

Yes.

 

It is very dramatic near the end

That's also a reason why I didn't play it.

Btw,

Muv Luv Alternative is rated #1 on vndb for a good reason.

Play muv luv alternative (third part) after playing the first two and you will change your mind. Muv Luv Alternative is rated #1 on vndb for a good reason.

Isn't that the one

Are you serious ? Ever played ever17,muv-luv trilogy,g-senjou no maou or Key series ?Try those and say again.

Muv-Luv shouldn't be here in my opinion ... I only played the first two parts, but I don't like it. And yes, definitely G-Senjou no Maou ... my favourite

Added save for the complete Berio and Kaede route on the first post under point 5.

Nothing but a black screen and some sound.

Have you installed the patch here? Just put it in the game folder and run it.

Newest version of your graphic drivers and DirectX?

Hmm i might have overlooked the harem route. Is that the same as Justice/crea or am i misunderstanding something?

 

Btw, battles are much shorter if you set it to the "piss easy" mode

Yeah, made that already

The walkthrough for the harem route (you must have cleared all routes before that one, just to be sure. The last route should have been MiaB (Mia's good ending).

Last CG means only they from playing the story. You get 5 CG's after reaching level 200 in Survival

Here's also one for the title "badass protagonist" ... although I didn't complete the game, only the demo

Kazami Yuuji - from the Grisaia series. Man, I can't wait for the full english patch

well..just read Kaede over Berio and Rico over Nanashi...XD

Doesn't work for me, since I want to play Lily's route, Mia's good route and the harem route

Lily -- Complete Berio, Kaede, Rico AND Nanashi's routes

MiaB* -- Complete Lily's route

MiaA* -- Complete MiaB

Justice/Crea -- Complete MiaA

Anyways ive just completed all routes of Duel savior justice and liked it pretty much. The fighting does get a bit boring after the first two playthroughs, and i kindof missed a "skip battles" button. Lilys route was the best IMO, while Mias route was the one i enjoyed the least

 

Ill rate it 7 out of 10.. Would have given it 8 if it was possible to skip fights

Haha, same opinion here. Finished Berio's route yesterday and now I'm playing Kaede's route. Ok, I skipped Berio's route because I don't like her, at least the text ... the battles are just annoying if you want to skip a route only for the harem route

Man, I need to skip Nanashi's route too -_-