Slasherturtle

mustache (the epitome of manhood)

Well, depends what kind of abuse are we talking about. The well *cough*cough* kind or the sad emotional bitch mounting your head on a wall kind. The latter being the ill description of an S&M. How the hell are you supposed to get off on a pint-sized $^&% or whatever girl beating you to a bloody pulp. It's a sad fact that shows how much people are willing to go through for their so called love. Domestic violence isn't something that people should live with day by day because they adhere in believing in the betterment of their partner through their own self sacrifice (it should be a reciprocated exchange that should not have a definite one-sided backlash to their constitution ...like dying every day just for laughs {unless your into that, then its all reciprocal love...=__= idk}). THOSE kinds of character suffer so much for such an obscure sense of fidelity and devotion that makes the very definition of unconditional love sound repulsive IMO. The very fact that characters like Saito enjoy being oppressed in some scenes makes it acceptable at first but, the fact that he doesn't enjoy being humiliated and beaten for false accusations makes the very relationship seem frail and fake.... confusing as hell as well. An S&M anime I actually loved was MM! . The main actually enjoyed getting it and tbh I wouldn't mind taking Mio's cure any day. (I think Mio is pretty tsundere IMO) The very concept of moe and tsundere is as vague and vastly discussed as the argument of what eating utensil is the best. The definitions of cultural and personal interest are as it sounds based thoroughly on personal and cultural standpoints. The discussion of Tsundere on a whole these days has been closely related to the workings of S&M. I don’t mind the tsundere being an S&M queen. But, the problem being in that (IMO) S&M and domestic abuse are not the same. The very thought of domestic abuse is something that makes me think of "A caged bird that loves its captor and falls affectionate to the captors twisted whims, until it fails to see its own end". ( I forget if that saying was in english or was it in my native language/some other language translated into english...either way, carry on) It implies that the very idea of one-sided violence being the bread and butter in a relationship will lead to the destruction of said relationship. The discussion has probably derailed from the question somehow...Idk. Maybe it has maybe been the exact answer OP wanted. Either way, we live with the hands we are given and blahblahblah we should go play some more eroge. P.S. Like Haika said Zero no Tsukaima had a lot of potential...I've watched every single episode and still watching every updated episode and reading the whole light novel up until now and I still think it could have been better. I just don't like hating something randomly and without reason. What better way to hate something then self torture I also like tsundere more than other characters, so wish it could have been one of my favorites.

extraditable

escalate (xerxes is a male name notably refers to Xerxes the first .)

I don't have any kind of preference

you forgot Turtles

LOL thats the same as wikipedia....damn LOL at fakku tag. Well, now I'm beginning to see nearly all of the characters that were so freely tagged with tsundere as being not tsun tsun. Hmmmm, I guess now I know I'm not really that into whiny ass bitches with messed up ego's which are violent to their partner (destructive tendencies). Oh, did I mention most of them lack any self assurance without the MC and still beat up him up. (BTW, this is for hostile type of Tsun. I'm still trying to find a cold and just cold type of tsundere...maybe Senjougahara from Bakemonogatari. But, she threatened to blind the main and kill him if he cheated. Pssh, continue searching (help me out in finding, please) ) In my perhaps awkward or reasonable sense of judgement, I can't be double standard on the whole tsundere beating tendency issue since, I wouldn't like it if the main was a girl that devoted her life to the hero and was beaten up on a regular basis. Sure, maybe they're M. But, so am I. (I think) IMO, there's a fine line between sexually stimulating /(whatever the hell you want to call it) beating that deepens the bonds between partners and just random unreasonable violence.....(for the record I don't understand love either)...

Saponification...(not sure...maybe einix is some word I remembered from somewhere...I think it was Atlantean. Lol, sorry.)

hmmm, our definition of end is not the same.

einix.........

an end to eroge is the end of humanity

terrible...

Well, I saw the one in the loli group about an hour ago....just didnt know what to reply. The answer would be yes....for most of my close friends. But, probably no for people I don't want them to know.

elope.......

endoplasmic

loser.....

yearn.....

Master rat catch the biggest turtle......ftw

Well, now I'm really not sure what tsundere means.... from wiki: character development process that describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing their warm side over time. Myself: Just some girl that can't say what she really feels to the guy. Later, shows it anyway for plot development. (actually still not sure what tsundere means)

^Kawaii~~~ avatar

Secrete...

^ How does one understand such a random anime?

I love hinagiku Does she count? She's pretty tsun..and deredere.

LOL, chicken.

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