Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Updated And A More Trustworthy Source http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-02-11/christopher-handley-sentenced-to-6-months-for-obscene-manga Christopher Handley, the Iowa man on trial for possessing manga "drawings of children being sexually abused," was sentenced on Thursday to six months in prison. Following this sentence, Handley must serve three years of supervised release and five years of probation. Both of these terms will start upon his release from prison and will run concurrently. Handley also agreed to forfeit all seized materials, including his computer. During Handley's supervised release and probation, Handley must also "participate in a treatment program, to include psychological testing and a polygraph examination, as directed by the U. S. Probation Officer." According to earlier court documents, this last provision is "intended to provide [Handley] with diagnosis and treatment for sexually and/or gender identity or other mental health issues." Handley pleaded guilty to his charges in May 2009. Items Seized Included in the court documents is the list of the seven books that Handley had shipped to him and that U.S. Post Office officials seized in May 2006. The seizure led to a warrant to search Handley's home and eventually being charged for possession of obscene materials. The seven books are: Mikansei Seifuku Shōjo (Unfinished School Girl) by Yuki Tamachi (LE Comics) I [Heart] Doll by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics) Kemono for ESSENTIAL 3 (THE ANIMAL SEX ANTHOLOGY Vol.3) by Masato Tsukimori et al (Izumi Comics) Otonari Kazoku (Neighboring House Family) by Nekogen (MD Comics) Eromon by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics) Kono Man_ ga Sugoi! (This Man_ is Awesome!) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics) Hina Meikyū (Doll Labyrinth) by Makafusigi (Seraphim Comics) I stumbled a cross the b.s on http://www.nihonomaru.com The idea of this to me is so stupid.If they did this they should go to people houses and find books about rape and convict people for not reporting a rape crime.isn't real,I don't even care about loli but wtf.I mean most hentai involves school girls(I know all hentai doesn't but it's the most popular theme in japan) so whats next, arresting anyone who has hentai.Fu#k when do the b.s crusades ever end.I hate it when my country does this b.s It makes us look like jackasses. (I would also change the title but I can't) Edited May 28, 2012 by Breakthrough Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killerinsidee 14 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 The key words here are - "American" and "ordered" :> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cybersteel 10 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Haha lol this was like 3 years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 wow... good thing my country has mail and shipping privacy laws... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exsilon 15 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Whoaaa the punnishment sure overkill Anyone life would be f***ked up beyond believe by that Edited May 28, 2012 by Exsilon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Haika 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 (edited) Yeah, I trust this article about as far as I can bench press an elephant. To start, postal workers rifling through mail and reporting manga as child abuse images... ;/ Sounds very fishy. Oh and illegal. Then there's this: 'The US Postal Service later conducted a search of his domicile and found the rest of his collection.' Umm, Since when does the postal service do house searches? 'the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund' Really? REALLY?? ;/ I imagine this is a scare tactic by certain members of the media or interest groups who are obsessed with punishing anyone who even comes close to sexual deviance. Real Rapists and Child Molesters have gotten people so worked up that they will go to extreme lengths to stop anything even remotely like them. It could also just be a joke or a prank, or someone trying to bring to light how people go overboard about certain cultural issues. But I'm sure as hell not going to defend rape or child porn in reality. This article doesn't say what state this all happened in so we can't even check to see if there are specific laws in that state that allow something like this. Usually, there are laws protecting what you own, especially if you aren't publicly showing it to people. Owning pornography for your own personal viewing isn't going to bother anyone, and I doubt there are laws against having it in private. Unless you are trying to run for office, or be a school teacher or some other thing that makes them check such things even then there are privacy laws. Then again if it was drugs they could just charge in any time they wish... Horror cop stories about that I've heard before, with a lot more credibility than this article. No. sorry. I just don't believe this. The only way I could believe this story is if the man involved worked with children, or was seen sulking outside neighbor's homes or schools and the like. Then he's just a creep and cops nailed him on this as a loophole. But I still totally doubt the info stated in the actual article, something like this could happen, but it would be more police and law officials, than postal workers and 'comic book defenders'. And besides, who owns physical porn anymore with the internet around? Edited May 28, 2012 by Haika Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 well... once you break the law, ignorance is not an excuse... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grimsha 10 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 well... once you break the law, ignorance is not an excuse... [ATTACH=CONFIG]4105[/ATTACH] Doubt it VN, tons of people get in trouble for shit they didnt even do. The courts are not perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Doubt it VN, tons of people get in trouble for shit they didnt even do. The courts are not perfect. yeah... sometimes the equation is: money+power=justice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Updated From A More Trustworthy Source In the original post (I would also change the title but I can't) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 yeah... sometimes the equation is: money+power=justice No It's Majority+Money = Justice The Majority makes the law, Money empowers it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 well... once you break the law, ignorance is not an excuse... [ATTACH=CONFIG]4105[/ATTACH] Not hating or anything but that quote is bs 1st. Know one knows every law ever made 2nd this is a offshoot of an another law that didn't cover this situation.Who knew you could get arrested for sh%t that's not real.(You should also arrest everyone who has read a book or watched a move where someone get murdered for accessory to murder) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneManArmy 82 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 No. sorry. I just don't believe this. Same here. Oh and the USA sucks anyway. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 nah... there is no country without flaws... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 nah... there is no country without flaws... I will agree with that.Government is a terrible idea from the start their is no real right way to apply it. This is a real story google the guys name! But My country (usa) It loves a good witch hunt thats why we suck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneManArmy 82 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I will agree with that.Government is a terrible idea from the start their is no real right way to apply it. This is a real story google the guys name! But My country (usa) It loves a good witch hunt thats why we suck. Well there are countries which sucks more than other ones. Denmark for example is fuckin awesome, germany's okay. But usa and russia...meh. Oh and I'm not talking about the people there, just about the goverments. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masao 10 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 what the... they should come and also imprison me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grimsha 10 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 what the... they should come and also imprison me Sounds like you have your hopes up? Also OMA: These governments like to set example for people, They might be harsh on one, to try and deter the rest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alien 10 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I will agree with that.Government is a terrible idea from the start their is no real right way to apply it. Tell me more about how all of civilization was a bad idea and we should just go back to living in trees because the nasty government jailed somebody for indulging their pedophilia. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif Or maybe you'd just prefer no government? Which would leave us with... no roads/bridges, no electric/water/internet infrastructure, and actual mob rule. But I guess pedophiles wouldn't be in jail, so it's okay. Until they get lynched for wanting to fuck children. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Well there are countries which sucks more than other ones. Denmark for example is fuckin awesome, germany's okay. But usa and russia...meh. Oh and I'm not talking about the people there, just about the goverments. Let's be honest here what country has the most power will always be the A-hole, history proves this.Germany is on cool now say that sh*t in 1939.Rome too,ancient Rome everyone hated them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 I will agree with that.Government is a terrible idea from the start their is no real right way to apply it. This is a real story google the guys name! But My country (usa) It loves a good witch hunt thats why we suck. government is a good idea, the only bad thing is that no body can run it perfectly... every government has different ways... they tend to concentrate on a certain matter which sometimes leads to ignoring other matters... and the problem will be---> the ignored matter get's worse and unsolved...---> creates complaints---> starts a never ending argument which also wastes time, effort, and money... (wow, now this is a good thread...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 Tell me more about how all of civilization was a bad idea and we should just go back to living in trees because the nasty government jailed somebody for indulging their pedophilia. http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif Or maybe you'd just prefer no government? Which would leave us with... no roads/bridges, no electric/water/internet infrastructure, and actual mob rule. But I guess pedophiles wouldn't be in jail, so it's okay. Until they get lynched for wanting to fuck children. How is that man a pedophile for having drawings? Also, you are misreading what I said. Government and civilization are two completely different things. It's sad that people can not function on morals alone and a government has to structure a society for them. It is because we are violent and retarded by nature that government exists. Now I imagine you're going to say "how can I bring up morals for the, as you would call him, pedophile." We are all here because we enjoy hentai of some nature. But they are drawings at the end of the day. So there's that squashed. But getting back to government, let us wonder and awe at all the great things the government has down as a collaborative that we as individuals or as simply structured society wouldn't have done. Bombs, war, genocide, slavery. Now these things might exist on a smaller scale, but those would be deviants or people without morals. Humanity is flawed, so the system of controls we create clearly will be flawed. I'm not saying i'd prefer no government, i'm just saying you shouldn't pretend like i'm a retard for hating it's necessity, due to our own weakness as humans. Also, way to take the pedophile thing out of context. I wouldn't be saying shit if it was actual pedophilia with children. It's. A. Drawing. Not actual childporn. And who has defined the age of the girls in the lolita stuff he had? And even if they did define the age, it's still at the end of the day a drawing. So don't come at me as if i'm an anarchist imbecile. And I don't feel like further debating philosophy with you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
switch 13 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 *LE WILD SWITCH APPEARS* gets his dilhammer and hammers the shit out of the argument...NEXT THREAD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 *LE WILD SWITCH APPEARS* gets his dilhammer and hammers the shit out of the argument...NEXT THREAD agreed... let's stop this argument shall we??? time to destroy this this argument... (ruka-chan, the dildo-calibur please...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breakthrough 11 Posted May 28, 2012 Author Share Posted May 28, 2012 agreed... let's stop this argument shall we??? time to destroy this this argument... (ruka-chan, the dildo-calibur please...) [ATTACH=CONFIG]4107[/ATTACH] No Vnhunter yeller's my dog I'll do it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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