Uzuki Sepia

It wasn't, but it's nothing to be sarcastic about. I read in the shoutbox that to you the love she shows at the end (stuff such as when she offers to let him go back to his old life/first bad end scene and so on) is the same as the one the shows at the beginng because she has to reproduce (instinct, isn't it? you call that love?), so discussing it's pointless, on that I agree.

Yes, indeed.

Saya is what develop, while Fuminori goes through the same process but backward... Saya no Uta is the story of how the distance between them disappears, the involution of the man and the humanization of the monster.

If you want to save the best one for last Makina might be better for the sake of putting more distance between her route and Yumiko's.

*Pukuku* So that's what you think? I see. *Pukuku*

It's not like Kara no Shoujo is the only non-nukige game they licensed, think about Higurashi, all the Overdrive titles (and Boku ga Tenshi ni Natta Wake is Overdrive) and so on. Also, while I don't care about nukige, stuff such as Eroge and Imouto Paradise doesen't sound half bad XD edit: please MG, bring us Tenka Gomen and Shin Koihime!

I checked Meikyuu and Rakuen openings and I like them a lot more than Kajitsu op, which I like only instrumental. They shouldn't be spoilerish but beware, because if you didn't read Kajitsu or did but didn't catch on a certain something (the Professor) you might prefer avoiding them (even if the Meikyuu (sunglasses-wearing Makina is quite badass) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHaQ0Vh5blk Rakuen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7eq3Z_g3JE From what I read is very possible that I'm going to downright like these sequels (I won't ask for a seemingly bulletproof plot after Kajitsu and either way there are things I value more when I read, so it should be fine).

Yes, it would. But one can talk about it as well, even in harsh tones at times, without turning the discussion into something unsightable. A heated discussion doesn't necessarily imply reciprocal slander and attacking the statements without attacking whoever is behind them is doable.

, lol This ends here.

Yep yep, continue. Nice explanation also for Chihaya/Lucia, lol. How stupid. And think of your own english before questioning how I write (never heard of mistakes? you make a lot of them too)... "what exactly is this flaws".... the worst until the very end. Good night.

Double post because I can't edit the previous: only now I read your edit with your impression on Rewrite. And lol, it's not like we are that far off this time. Moon/Terra are better, true, but the overall for me doens't make for a good game. Let me be more clear: if I had the SAME EXACT opinion about it I would still rate it 6.5 (and I rate it 6, for Moon/Terra and for the production value, even if the charades isn't exaltating). For you that makes a 8.5 if I remember well. That's the difference. Bullshit on bullshit (yes, if you are talking about what I think I won't deny, I found out later that I made a mistake talking about it with a friend). Seems fair, even thought I simply see you ignoring yours. Also, what you write about G-Senjou to me was likely to be just lip service, you can't mean it if you rate it 9. Either that or you have serious problems and give high scores to bad stuff fully knowing what are you doing. Though with your opinion on Rewrite I can brush it off as simply having very different standards. edit: and peace, good night/day to you all

Just how derp can you get? First, I asked you directly after that discussion if you did read KnS and you answerd that you didn't because you wanted to read Cartagra first. I don't know how to search for a specific post on this forum but if there's a way you can tell me and I'll glad to refresh your very convenient memory. Second, if Butler didn't start with the fanboy thing I woulnd't have asked him anything just to make fun of him; also, that's a very stupid thing to bring up because even in that case it all started with your teasing (if you had dismissed your joke as a joke -and I had suggested it in my first post- that discussion wouldn't exist). Third, if you insist on that stuff, how can you be sure that Fate tl isn't awkward even in japanese? Why the heck did you talk about KnS? For what technical reason Lucia's route is a story well told and Chihaya isn't? How can a poorly translated game have good writing? And so on. The déjà vu is getting strong, I can't belive this is happeing again asd

"Good storytelling" and "Ryukishi" in the same sentece: now that's amusing, especially after the Umineko experience (thought I liked other aspects). Accusing others of not knowing what good storytelling is while doing so too, even more laughable. And that from one that most probably hasn't even read anything of Ryukishi aside Lucia's route. Also, doesen't seem to me that I wrote I read Saihate, I cited it because it IS considered one of his best works and he wrote that alone, is a fact. I'm not like you that write bullshit like F/sn being better written/a story better told or whatever than KnS and G-Senjou (G-Senjou epilogue, because the epilogue is the narration right? Talk about the one that pretends to know what "good storytelling is") togheter without having read one of them, then go around on vndb and such places writing that Fate tl is bad (in that topic I also came to know that even Nasu isn't satisfied with his early works and that might/will rewrite Tsukihime from scratch, asd -but thank to that discussion now I have expectations for Mahoyo-). If you have to play the fanboy every time something a comment isn't to your liking just don't ask for explanation or things that could make the other waste his time if you plan to reject them nonetheless. Or well, you'd be an ass but you can, but at least avoid trying to piss the other off in the process for the heck of it. I didn't ask you why you think that Rewrite has no flaws or whatever you think because I don't care, so I won't ask you to waste time writing me your reasons. Isn't more correct this way? Also... Chihaya, Lucia, Akane, just name it. They are all below my stardands of decency without exception.

Rewrite started having flaws the moment they decided to recycle the LB! structure in a novel written with Tanaka and Ryukishi. Not that it is that particular, but Tanaka and Ryukishi are. About Ryukishi, I read that some people laments the fact that his route was too detached from the rest of the game but in that situation I think that it was actually quite a smart decision, being him an author not capable/used to adapting/reinventing himself with success for other kinds of structures and stories; he mostly focused on the the relationship between his characters and the background of the heroine and yes, this would have been positive because that's the thing he is most skilled at; only would because sadly, this time for unknown reasons, Lucia's story sucks really hard: is the saishuuheiki kanojo stereotype devoided of meaning and cheesy as hell. I think I was still reading Kai while reading Rewrite (either that or the first Umineko) and I was surprised by the difference from this pov. Not only Lucia's route isn't one of the best in Rewrite, it's most likely the worst (not that it concerns me that much, imo there's no good character route in Rewrite). Key's fault here is that Ryukishi was put in a context that either "isolated" him or made him takes a certain distance resulting in him doing a half-assed job, it's the only explanation I can find. For Tanaka instead the situation is more vague for me because he can be incostant even without "external interferences" and being the main writer I doubt he hadn't a say in it, but even if he had it doesen't show; Tanaka gives his best when left at his own devices (CC, Saihate and even if the medium is different Jinrui -this goes backward asd-), so while I think he can -to some degrees- do what I said Ryukishi can't, he does it usually while experimenting alone and without having to adapt to something predefinite. One could think that this doesn't feels like a major problem at all but I'd suggest to think about it twice. Simply put I think that Tanaka and Ryukishi weren't the most fitting people for what Key wanted to do and that Rewrite pays for it. Feels like Key got big names just the sake of it without taking into account other factors. The flaws this game has (born from the apparent lack of organization resulting in weird pieces of scenario, incosistencies -those regards the watered down version of Taichi too, Kotarou- and problems with the pace that's far from being great) were mostly avoidable or amortizable had Key used a bit more brain to go along with all that money. I won't use the so-called flop this game made as proof of anything because I don't think Rewrite inferior to -some- other Key games, nor are the sales any indicative when talking about quality, but as I wrote before I think it could have been better.

The lol thing is that the guy thinks that Rewrite has very few flaws. A less than mediocre Tanaka and the worst Ryukishi to date don't support that statement. Probably they weren't put in the most confortable position, especially Ryukishi, but damn... Not that I find Rewrite to be that bad, nor I would call it bad in an absolute sense, but seems to me that it could have been a lot better (not only for those two obviously, Key has its faults as well... quite a lot indeed imo, as one can desume from the "confortable position" bit).

A little sad for SubaHibi I went to take a look on TLWiki and it says 76.7% translated and 75.8% edited, banzai! This progress? Without love it cannot be seen.

Started Umineko Chiru chap. 8; I would like to think that the end is near but if it's like the first Umineko this means that about 20 of those 50+ hours are still waiting for me. I won't comment on the game and probably won't even in the future.

Please note that it was a rhetorical question

Tl;dr, good luck/good work! Can't say I'm a reader of OELVN but I find the idea of people working on projects like this very nice, I hope for it to be well received That, and a question: isn't using stuff like Rewrite bgi and ef bgm a problem?

It's not just your opinion and it's not weird to complain, rest assured. If anything, it's the other way around. And brace yourself, the 5th chapter has quite the epic moments (I still can't forget THAT scene XD).

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I'm celebrating, just to be on the safe side asd

Am I drunk or MG will release a package edition of KnS? 0_0

I was talking about Yumiko's route Actually i don't think I've ever read of people badmouthing Makina's route, to my knowledge is considered the best alongside Amane's.

Kajitsu, a few days ago. Overall was decent, and even though I found Angelic Howl to be the most interesting part I think that Makina had the best route. I mildy enjoyed Sachi's route too, her good ending imo had the most touching moment of the game (while her bad ending made me laugh hard, more than Makina's) while Yumiko's was a bit boring -I played it last, while Makina's was the first- but I expected it to be worse from the comments people write. Last and least Michiru's route... I like her sprites with all the funny faces and so on, but all the rest about her is pretty bad. Also, the writer of this should have done something like what Yamakan did during that 2011: retire, at least for a few years. I whined a bit about Watanabe's work, but it wasn't really nothing new and I basically love it; I also think that overall the art is the strong point of this game, it even makes up for the average bgm. Yuuji, even with his inconsistencies, is one of my favourite mc of the medium and was by far my fav character, while Sachi was the heroine I liked the most/only heroine I liked (why? for stuff like this ); for me Makina during the common was a nuisance, I like her better in small doses and once in a while, while I care next to nothing about the others, even if I have to admit that Yumiko every now and then was pretty cute. Done with the trivial stuff (though the bit about the reference in Michiru's route wasn't) here comes the one and only thing that really grabbed my attention in this game