Gerard the Lone Wolf

Took you long enough, bro. xD

What ever happened with the translation? http://puu.sh/4Zwl9.png http://i.imgur.com/mzDg25d.jpg http://i.imgur.com/PLJtyuA.jpg

I guess somebody actually going to translate Miyako's and Agave's route after all these years, so, Majikoi hardcore fans can look forward to a wonderful translation then.

Hey, I at least gives a lot of suggestions, unlike the person above you who is butthurt because I said Saya's doesn't have good development. xD Edit: *sigh* Okay, let's do this. [spoiler=Saya] Now, what can people understand from these quote? Saya's believe that romance is an integral part of human reproductive (due to the romantic literature books she consumed), so she had indirectly neutered her own reproductive abilities i.e. "she now needs romance as a cause" and tried to understand love ("humanization" process starts here). But human saw her as a monster, and she scared them, so she can't share love with them to fill the world with her kind i.e. reproduce, until Fuminori's who sees her as a cute loli-waifu girl came into her lives. No it is not exactly wrong. Check this: "Without love's blessing, she was unable to find the enthusiasm necessary to fill this world with her kind." She always has the ability to love someone, anyone, IMO, she just couldn't (for obvious reasons) until Fuminori who sees her as a loli-waifu came along, so no, her so-called "humanization" start right on when she decided that romantic relationship is a necessary part of her. Yes, I agree with that, which is why I specifically said "except being in love". My problem with your sentence is when you said "the humanization of the monster". She did not become humanized in other areas except "romantic relationship", this is why she can eat people, transform people into being like her, and ultimately damned the entire human civilization and gave them a middle finger right in their faces. This logic is terribly laughable. It isn't a spoiler because you can find it in a synopsis? Let's see: [spoiler=Grisaia no Rakuen] Yep, totally not a spoiler because you can find it in VNDB short summary. Also not a spoiler: There's a subtle difference between these two sentences you know. Anway, Saya's gained her humanity for romantic relationship, in that, she wants to love someone, get jealous, etc. but that is all. It doesn't expand beyond that. Like I've said before, she does a lot of monstrous action throughout the VN. I actually understood that scene, unlike you. There is no change of mind whatsoever. She was jealous when she found out, and she deliberately turned her into a monster to punish her for loving Fuminori, and she told those words in the screenshot to test him and see if he would reacted to her provocation. She was planning to make her a pet from the beginning when she found out the girl loves Fuminori's through her victim's phone. There is no change of mind in here. lol If you can't see that she'd started to loves him from the beginning of the game, I've nothing to say about this anymore. Uzuki Sepia: "Saya's doesn't love him at first, but now she is" = Marvelous character development "Saya gradually loves Fuminori's more and more" = Great character development "Saya's get jealous" = Splendid character's development Erm, okay. I'll just brush this off as you've a lower standard than mine.

Just to be clear, I do liked Saya because she's a cute loli-waifu, but that's a different story. Since the mad guy who talk to fairies brought up SB, I guess I should post what I wrote in there, just because. [spoiler=Saya]The shouts are from bottom to top, if you haven't realize it already. http://puu.sh/4Z6IZ.png http://puu.sh/4Z6Qu.png lol Does that short summary of the story tell us anything about Saya's character development? Does it says that the execution of Saya's character development was done well? Does it tell us that the story achieved what it was trying to tell its audience through Saya's character? What are you trying to prove with that, guy who talk to fairies? Wow, this is so bad it's actually unbelievable. Let's just pretend that he is completely right about the scenes, how it occurs, the reasons why it happened, its relations with Saya's character development, and end this. Woah, what a character development, gyafun~~~ Saya's best character 10/10!!!

Fair enough.

An extra [ will do. I guess I might as well treat this thread as Saya no Uta thread for this post only. [spoiler=Saya no Uta][ I don't remember about semen, but I did recalled that she having lots of sex has something to do with the event in the "true end". (I don't believe in Saya having a true end though, because every ending is quite good on its own) However, I do think that the "nature" to love, which is the word I used in SB is originally a part of her being, instead of the result of "humanization" by anyone. She is also a hunter that preyed on human and eat people (because that is also part of her nature), and her so-called "humanization" (if you could even called it that) only revolves around her relationship with Fuminori, which exist since from the beginning of the story, and can hardly be called as character development towards the end or anywhere in the story. (In the true end she just "poof" and everybody became a monster) While in the white room, she did gives Fuminori a choice between going back to be a normal human or stayed the way they are, and it is ultimately served as a turning point for Fuminori, and only has a "slight development" for her, if any. So I'm starting to wonder, what is this so-called character development and humanization of Saya? lol Even if there's a bit of development in her relationship between Fuminori's (which mostly due to Fuminori's actions), I can hardly contribute it to Saya's character development and says "she grew as a character". Hahaha... Oh, is the character development and humanization moment is the part where she turned the poor girl into a monster like her as a present for Fuminori? O:

Good job spoiling people I guess (Granted, when it comes to Saya no uta, I consider everything plot-related as spoiler), and misunderstood the SB context along with it.

Truthfully speaking, I've absolutely no idea. I guess this is time for trial and error? xD

I guess the sarcasm is missed.

lol What a development.

I'll recommend this route order because it's a decent one: Kohane -> Miyu -> Aoi -> Rin -> Yukina -> Tsuzume -> Asahi -> Koto (Credits to Gabe)

^ Yin's avatar is a great avatar. 10/10 Yea, that probably would work. I searched a bit and it seems that some people solved the freeze issues that way. http://www.vn-meido.com/k1/index.php/topic,313.msg14393.html#msg14393 Anyway, you could try this version or this version and see if it would make any difference, because I can't seem to find the 3.5GB version. :/

AkabeiSoft2 titles are in there, good taste alert. And don't listen to anyone who hates A Profile. Great VNs with good protagonists: Utawarerumono, 999, Dra+Koi, Kikokugai, Hanachirasu and The Second Reproduction (if you can handle Otome). Also: http://s.vndb.org/cv/75/8675.jpg Saya no Uta - The best English translated Nitro+ titles so far (according to me, that is). I read this eroge alone at night, turned of all the lamps, wore a headphones, set the volumes high enough, and the result was quite thrilling and very atmospheric, so I suggest people do the same for good immersion. The story is romantically dark and you get to see the world from the eyes of one of the most fucked up protagonists, before they changed POV in the late second half of the VN. Most of the main characters underwent a good development throughout the story too, except Saya, but I guess most people overlook it because she's an adorable loli-waifu. Anyway, ZiZZ's melodies are fucking masterpiece, especially the way it gorgeously blends with the scenes dark tones, and the damn Fuminori is one of my favorite protagonists, so, Saya no Uta is great etc. and everyone should read it.

Probably because no active users has played the game before. There's Ultim, but he's KIA. RIP Yaoi Master.

As long as you don't end it with the other three you are good.

..... very terrible. Geass.

Sorry, but people can hope for anything, however vain or unrealistic that hope is. So, is Mangagamer plan to translate Soukoku no Arterial? :3

Woah. O:

Yea, it's common occurrence. On a fun side, I remember the time when Ixrec computer died, and suddenly Air's progress went up..... dundundun O:

Well, this time it wasn't a translator, it was Doddler.

Bukkake Ranch GOTY.

Who knows, MG answer is always vague whenever the question is asked. ... I'm betting my money on no though, for a couple of reasons.

Oh, I should recommend Corpse Party and Corpse Party BloodCovered too because it's awesome. It's PSP VN so get PPSSPP emulator if you want to play on PC.