How to play non-translated eroges while using translator- guide

[SaruDa 11]

From:

How to read Visual Novels in Japanese in 2 years time (step by step guide)

I think the writer of that blog is a little off. Why would you learn 2136 Kanji before even touching the grammar or vocabulary? The more different ways you approach the same things, the better you'll remember them. Spitting kanji into your head at the rate of 10 per day without any real knowledge of the words they represent is a prime way to forget half of them by the time you're done with all 2136. Immersion is the best method, and honestly you can start immersing yourself in VNs after less than 1000 kanji, most of the grammar points, and a whole lot of vocabulary. After that you get to play Visual novels and pick stuff up as you go along. That's where I am right now, and I'm making somewhat decent progress(probably not to the point that I'll be fluent in 100 days, but I'm not really trying to learn intensively...)

Edited February 22, 2012 by SaruDa

[Makoto Nanaya 10]

cant wait to try this out. thanks for the guide!~

[Caelistas 12]

Really wished i had the time to study japanese, but i already speak 3 languages and can't bring up the willpower to learn another one just to read visual novels.

[Shadyren 10]

Good lord. I found this translation quite useful for me to learn english.

 

Thanks.

[Yukari 10]

Unfortunately ITH/AGTH don't work with all eroge. E. g. recently I wanted to play Haruka ni Aogi, Uruwashi no and ITH only extracted the first half of the sentence...

[SaruDa 11]

Good lord. I found this translation quite useful for me to learn english.

 

Thanks.

I wouldn't recommend it. Machine translation from Japanese --> English tends to result in terrible, unnatural grammar.

[RJei 12]

Bad grammar makes my ears bleed

[ultimumknight 10]

It is hard to understand. So I never bothered with this.

[elij48 10]

the translator has a virus....

oh well...i ll just need to extract all over and turning off my

anti virus.....xD:cool:

even though it has a virus....

ty:o:D

Edited May 26, 2012 by elij48

[aer0gam3r 10]

I've played many eroge over the years using ATLAS; I don't even notice the bad translation these days. ATLAS translation aren't perfect, but it allows you to play a wide range of eroge, many which will never be translated.

 

I wrote up a guide for using ATLAS. It also has examples of translations. It can be found here:

An Aero-Gamer’s Guide to Using ATLAS | Amaenbou Dane~

 

In the end, learning Japanese is hands down the best method to play eroge. However, that will takes years. My recommendation is to play eroge using ATLAS, and learn Japanese at the same time.

[Bakahou 10]

my version of Atlas's 30 day trail is over... anyway i can actually use atlas again without paying over 50 bucks?

[desi 53]

my version of Atlas's 30 day trail is over... anyway i can actually use atlas again without paying over 50 bucks?

 

aer0gam3r's link explains it. Check here under when things go wrong near the bottom.

[Bakahou 10]

haha thank you, i'll try it out after my finals. ^_^

[ultimecea 22]

anyone have proper jasper???

[aer0gam3r 10]

anyone have proper jasper???

Are you talking about Jparser? You can find a link for it in my guide above.

[mapepole 10]

Thanks for the translate! But I don't really understand what they are saying :[. Sometimes it shows some japanese words. And worst of all, bad grammar pops up D:. But still better then nothing!

[aer0gam3r 10]

In my guide, in the 'other translators' section, I have included a bit about LEC power translator (with download links). Though this translator has a couple of flaws, I found that the translation ability surpassed ATLAS. My guide has lots of examples comparing the two translators, so you might be interested if ATLAS translations are too hard to understand.

[gyuh7 10]

it dont work on some eroges? like twinkle crusaders.

[aer0gam3r 10]

it dont work on some eroges? like twinkle crusaders.

If you're having trouble finding a thread, try using the latest version of ITH. Otherwise you might need an H-code.

[Helvetica Standard 17]

Skimmed thru the whole thread but.. anyone know how readable are VN's with ITH and TA method?

for example: Yoda readable: 60+ %

1 year old baby speaking readable: 50+%

Drunkmonkeyattemptingtospeak readable: 40-%

mad howling readable: 30-%

flyable heart readable 15-%

[aer0gam3r 10]

Skimmed thru the whole thread but.. anyone know how readable are VN's with ITH and TA method?

for example: Yoda readable: 60+ %

1 year old baby speaking readable: 50+%

Drunkmonkeyattemptingtospeak readable: 40-%

mad howling readable: 30-%

flyable heart readable 15-%

I really gotta try the translation for flyable heart one of these days since I heard that it was translated using machine translators.

 

I would say that for most general eroge, machine translators do a decent job. However a lot of other factors affect the experience, such as your Japanese ability (from watching anime) and the degree of error you're willing to forgive. Best way to see if it's for you is to try it out or to look at some examples of it. Just remember, there's a REASON why so little people use this method to play.

 

An alternative is to play using only Mecab and Jparser, which helps overcome the Kanji barrier. This method is closer to reading eroge raw because it requires you to learn to read Hiragana and get an understanding of Japanese grammar. As you might suspect, this method takes quite a bit of work and your reading speed to start off with would probably be slow as hell. However you probably get a lot more out of playing eroge like this because your understanding is SOLELY based just how well you can interpret Japanese.

Edited January 10, 2013 by aer0gam3r