Dan.

Thank you so much for your incredibly helpful and insightful contribution.

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I just want to say again that I do really like Umineko and I think it's really good. Clannad is the best VN ever. But the terrible translation definitely did negatively impact me. I could have enjoyed it even more with a better translation. Yes, let's do that.

I wasn't going to say anything, but since you asked, I guess I have to. Before I do, I should tell you that I've played the first 2 eps with the ps3 patches. And some things people should know: 1. THE ORIGINAL ART WAS ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. That includes the character sprites and the backgrounds. You can't just ignore that. 2. The original game didn't have voices, one of the things you said was the best about it These were both "fixed" by the ps3 port/ps3 patch, but people should be aware of how much these aspects of the game were changed by the patch. I'll try not to put any spoilers out in the open. OK, negatives: 1. The translation really needs some editing. There were mistakes everywhere. This problem probably didn't exist in the Japanese game, but we can't know for sure. What I do know for sure is that bad translation negatively impacts the way I experience the game. If you were reading a real book and it's full of spelling and grammatical errors, wouldn't it distract you from the actual content of the story? It's not nearly as bad as Edelweiss 1.0, but it is almost as bad as Ever17 without the additional typo/spelling/etc patch. 2. You said there was no point in the game that you found "genuinely boring," but I found a few parts of it to be pretty bad in that respect. Certain conversations that the siblings have go on for far too long. The beginning of ep 2 is also very boring. I can't elaborate without spoilers. [spoiler=umineko ep1&2]When I say "conversations," I'm mainly referring to the ones about the inheritance. They just drag on and on. I understand how it's important to the plot, but they're still so long that I get incredibly bored during them and can only continue on out of love for battler. The beginning of ep 2 is all the stuff that gives backstory for other characters before the family meeting. Seeing stuff from the other characters' viewpoints is just not as good as Battler's parts. I understand again how it's important to the story, and changing the viewpoint isn't bad in itself (it's used effectively in other parts of the ep, and the first ep), but there was too long a period without Battler in the beginning of ep 2. Another part of that is the George-Shannon romance. Jessica tells Shannon she should be in love with George, so she decides she is, then George falls in love with her because she says something nice about her. And that's before the witch gets involved, so you can't blame it on magic. 3. Ryukishi is a pretty great writer, but he makes mistakes too. [spoiler=umineko ep2]The one that was really obvious was when Battler was talking about the Devil's Proof, then shortly after that George, talking to Battler, said "what Rudolf oji-san called a Devil's Proof," as if it was Rudolf that had brought it up, rather than Battler. I had some more stuff to say but I can't remember it anymore. I got distracted several times while writing this (that's ADD for you). But anyway, I think I said most of what I wanted to say. Also, I love this game. The story, characters, and music are all great (especially the music). I just wanted to point out that this game is not perfect and people that might play this game should not go in expecting perfection because they will be let down if they do. Also, you asked me to tell you.

I have tons of OMA's pics. He keeps sending them to me. I can't post any of them here though because they'd scar you for life.

Battler's not a robin, he's a seacat. OneManArmy's just jealous that he doesn't get to be a superhero too.

Well of course he I did. Even Batman is a man, not some sort of inhuman monster.

This is a fact.

What about the fact that you have to play an entire bad game before you can play mla?

What about the fact that you have to play an entire terrible game before you can play mla?

The first one on the list is Avenger. The second one is actually him. The third one is probably another troll.

It's not him. It just goes to his profile because the only character that makes it different isn't a normal one so it gets rid of it when it tries to go to his profile. http://i.imgur.com/YuXPHJb.png

I looked at the votes and though kami voted for Boob Wars, but it was actually a kami imposter.

Otamegane definitely voted for boob wars just to piss off Yachi. He loves pissing on off Yachi.

sharnoth and inganock are probably better, but a profile is the only one i've played in that list, so it gets my vote.

even though it's onboard, you can still get a new one. After you install it you just have to disable the old one in your settings and use the new one.

it is definitely related. You need to fix that before you can play the game. You need to either fix your driver or get a new sound card.

I think you need some codecs. It says something about the "audio stream." Get a codec pack and see if that helps. Try CCCP - Combined Community Codec Pack or Download K-Lite Codec Pack

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It's been awhile since the last post, but if anyone cares anymore, i think i can add to this discussion:

Clannad über alles

You're dead to me. jk,

CLANNAD is the best vn ever