Kirai Aizuren 10 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 ahaha, sorry for necroing this.. m(_ _)m Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanahtlig 10 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 I favor JAST myself. They localize more games I'm interested in, and their current "in translation" lineup is very good. They're slow, but they've also been around longer. They're also more likely to be around 5 years from now than Mangagamer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 then good luck with your JAST... the one who buys all the fans translation >>> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiantmadness 11 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 MG... Even though it probably was the first and last time they toke on something non-nukige, they DID translate KNS and higurashi (with grammar errors or not ) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seraphic 13 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 MG... Even though it probably was the first and last time they toke on something non-nukige, they DID translate KNS and higurashi (with grammar errors or not ) In general, I like JAST's lineup more, but those two probably leave me in favor of MG. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exsilon 15 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Reading this topic remind me of how Jast fallen from it hayday As for MG I remember day, that a lot of people hate them (mostly due to bad translation) now it the Jast who took all the beating Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 Reading this topic remind me of how Jast fallen from it hayday As for MG I remember day, that a lot of people hate them (mostly due to bad translation) now it the Jast who took all the beating well..bad translation was because they have a bad translator and they were just new in the business so i actually dont see that it was in a bad sense. but..JAST have taken a major step back.. more like they actually let MG take over everything Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exsilon 15 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 well..bad translation was because they have a bad translator and they were just new in the business so i actually dont see that it was in a bad sense. Actually I too, dont feel the hate toward MG at that time at all. I enjoyed reading Edelweiss not notice any bad grammar until i read about it bad on the internet well probably my English wasnt storng enough to detect those mistake anyway 5555 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanahtlig 10 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Mangagamer has come a long way. Kouryuu in particular has helped improve the operation. Unfortunately, their marketing is still subpar, and their sales are so low they can't license decent games. They remind me a lot of G-Collections, which was absorbed into the J-List empire years ago. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan 163 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 their marketing is still subpar Do they even HAVE marketing?... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanahtlig 10 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Mangagamer shows up to conventions and sells stuff (they often bring guests and sometimes host a big event). They also do interviews with news outlets like Anime News Network and occasionally announce sales through them. They have affiliate links on VNDB, they cross-promote with a few OELVN makers, and they now have hard copies available at other outlets such as RightStuf and J-List. They also make use of social media like Twitter and Facebook. Whether you consider all that "marketing" or not is a subjective matter I suppose, but they're at least making some effort to get the word out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kirai Aizuren 10 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 well, if between those two are fight one-on-one, i'm guessing that MG will win Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 ok..i have enough of this shit... why this guy keep supporting JAST even that stupid company were a shadow of its past??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanahtlig 10 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm not allowed to prefer JAST in a thread that's polling a preference between JAST and Mangagamer? I didn't realize the poll had a correct answer. JAST still releases games. Sometimes. Like once a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I'm not allowed to prefer JAST in a thread that's polling a preference between JAST and Mangagamer? I didn't realize the poll had a correct answer. JAST still releases games. Sometimes. Like once a year. more like.. i was in shocked that you still follow that outdated company.. they already broken..and near to bankruptcy i believe Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sanahtlig 10 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 (edited) JAST has been around for ~15 years. They've watched other companies come and go, and at times they've been the only localization company left standing. They're working on a ton of games at once, and mostly non-nukige at that. On top of that, they have the entire Peter Payne J-List empire behind them as a financial buffer. They know how to market games, and they know what sells. Contrast this with Mangagamer, who entered the market 5 years ago and has been struggling to stay profitable ever since. Not too long ago (a few months to a year), the Japanese people in charge publicly expressed concern that Mangagamer might not be around 5 years from now. They're churning out nukige because that's the only way they can keep out of the red. The parent company appears to be getting out of the eroge development business. On top of that, Mangagamer has a reputation for poor translations it still hasn't quite managed to shake. Their bestselling title has only sold ~2000 copies, and that just managed to break even. Their marketing is amateur at best and they only have a limited number of titles selling in outlets outside of their site, meaning they have poor market exposure. Review the evidence and think about which company is healthier. Don't let wishful thinking cloud your judgment. Edited April 28, 2013 by sanahtlig Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 j-list is the one that keeps JAST from bankrupt... thats the reason why jast cant release more titles >.> the stupidity of a company with their person in charge.. they should just scrap that company(JAST) thats already went down the drain...and just focus on J-list and for your info..Nukiges titles were scarce in the GOOD OLD SCHOOL DAYS >.> thats why most of JAST projects used to be Story-driven titles.. plus..i already told you.. their poor translation were due to their stupid translator previously.. though..they were much better now..but not to the least at IXREC level but..i dont know why you were so offended bout JAST and support them to the depth of your onahole can drill?? unless..you were Peter Payne himself.. which.he was pissed of that MOOGY finally repent and noticed that JAST is the forgotten old timer~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exsilon 15 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 forgotten old timer? exactly Ultime exactly.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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