Guest loppez Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 haaah... I really love idiots... idiots who try to make something and try to improve... but you... haaaah... how about trying to make one yourself... just shut your trap if what you'll only do is complain... if you think you're that good... then prove it... Make one... if you can't, then you're all just talk... complain if you can do better... shut up if all you can only do is complain... -_- ofc i can't. that's why i don't do this. the problem are people who think they can. like helvetica. i mean ofc you can do that for your hobby. your choice but just saying. it is really low quality and your months of work will not paid off. that's all. how does it feel when everybody sees your story is just a coppy of others, when your hard work is just one of 1000? btw VNHunter your logic is wierd. following your point of view, don't rate any movies, visual novels. why? your words: "make one, if you can't, then you're all just talk...complain if you can do better..." stupid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helvetica Standard 17 Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 (edited) Played the demo and was satisfied with the progression of the story... But why did I get "Nisekoi" vibe in this VN? Also...One of the soundtrack in the game reminds me so much of To The Moon... Thank you for your feedback and I'm most glad you're enjoying the story so far :3 Just to answer your doubts: But why did I get "Nisekoi" vibe in this VN? Nisekoi is a comedy. This VN is not a comedy, (Violet Hill is 100% sci-fi with a little romance, so I'm not sure where you get those vibes from. XD) Also...One of the soundtrack in the game reminds me so much of To The Moon.. Interesting. As you might already know, the music we're using for this game is Public Domain/royalty free music. (Wondering what song sounds similar..) Many thanks for reading! Stay tuned for updates :3 Edited January 21, 2014 by Helvetica Standard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lucifer193 12 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Nisekoi is a comedy. This VN is not a comedy, (Violet Hill is 100% sci-fi with a little romance, so I'm not sure where you get those vibes from. XD) Awww...Shame but at least that cleared out my Nisekoi vibes from this VN... Keep up the good work... I'm liking this Rin's character and Aoki's ability already... P.S: I'd like suggest to include more comedy for the early part of the VN but if the author likes to present his story this way, who am I to complain? I'll read it...eventually... Interesting. As you might already know, the music we're using for this game is Public Domain/royalty free music. (Wondering what song sounds similar..) If you're wondering, try listening to the early part of and compare it to the soundtrack when Aoki meet Rin for the first time after the poem recitation early in the game (Sorry, I don't know the name of that soundtrack...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chocolatemilkgod 16 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 it is being made by an amateur guy. he can't write his own story. he can only take something from there, something from somewhere else and put that into "his" story. this is not something new. it is just one of X games/stories you can find anywhere. so much time just to release some kind of a duplicate. how exciting. i can tell you right now helvetica, your time spent on this project is not ganna paid off. you just wasted months of time. it might be cruel to you but the truth is cruel. I know the whole 'feeding the troll' idea is frowned upon... but come on, this is just too precious. 'Made by an amateur guy. he can't write his own story.' Have you even read a book? There are a great many authors who wrote as a pastime; it's not exactly the most lucrative job out there. It's just laughable how much this statement exudes ignorance. Brilliant. I also find the nigh on incoherence of your posts humorous, as per usual. Try a little harder and you might seem slightly less like a semi-literate moron who has a serious problem grasping basic grammar and sentence formation. On another note, I'm still editing but work is slow... I've gotten bogged down with a lot of stuff in real life at uni, so it'll be a while before much gets updated on my end. The next thing I'll work on, however, is a (hopefully) new and improved prologue (basically an adapted version that should be much cleaner) along with some other script changes... so that'll be going up when I can get around to finishing it (god knows when that'll be...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VNHunter 12 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) ofc i can't. that's why i don't do this. the problem are people who think they can. like helvetica. i mean ofc you can do that for your hobby. your choice but just saying. it is really low quality and your months of work will not paid off. that's all. how does it feel when everybody sees your story is just a coppy of others, when your hard work is just one of 1000? btw VNHunter your logic is wierd. following your point of view, don't rate any movies, visual novels. why? your words: "make one, if you can't, then you're all just talk...complain if you can do better..." stupid. oh... I didn't know you were stupid enough to not understand any of those words... what I'm saying is, do something better than helv's if you want to complain... if you can't even make one, then don't even complain... if you still can't understand... maybe this can help... and Helv... feel free to delete posts... EDIT: "their doing it for free so don't complain" Edited January 22, 2014 by VNHunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You don't have to be able to do something in order to complaint just like I don't have to be a game developer to criticizes the entirety of Dragon Age 2. Remember that, Hunter. the problem are people who think they can. like helvetica. Problem? There is no problem with that. You are the one who think it's a problem when in actuality you are being the primary problem here, loppy. I'll tell you this, you silly grumpy monster with skewed interpretation of adult and maturity. Life has many different facets; doing something with calculation of gains, profits, long-term efforts, worthwhile and whatnot, and doing something out of passion or whatever cheesy term one could come up with, regardless of the person abilities are both part of it. The important thing is whether someone think their life is happy or not. If you think you are happy doing only things that you are confident will yield successful result, then good for you. But you are not everyone, so keep your moralfag to yourself, and I'll do the same. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rooke 10 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 You don't have to be able to do something in order to complaint just like I don't have to be a game developer to criticizes the entirety of Dragon Age 2. Remember that, Hunter. Yeah, I'm getting sick of seeing that retarded argument floating all over the place. That being said, loppez is going way too far with his criticisms. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneManArmy 82 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 And that's exactly why you all should just ignore loppez. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) ofc i can't. that's why i don't do this. the problem are people who think they can. like helvetica. i mean ofc you can do that for your hobby. your choice but just saying. it is really low quality and your months of work will not paid off. that's all. how does it feel when everybody sees your story is just a coppy of others, when your hard work is just one of 1000? btw VNHunter your logic is wierd. following your point of view, don't rate any movies, visual novels. why? your words: "make one, if you can't, then you're all just talk...complain if you can do better..." stupid. dude... was it me or your response more like a grumbling old man lately?? i mean why do you need to bothered or comment on what others wanted to do?? meh..they can waste all their time doing so shit they like whether it worth their time or not since for all i know..they dont affect your life in any possible way that is if you can keep yourself away from the thread~ plus...you dont really have to gave others reasoning on why they should follow your advice just mention it once... if no one bothers..dont mention it again.. and that'll save the thread from getting spammed unless...you're a masochist that cant help yourself getting abused by others,,, feel free to openly declare your interest again~ Edited January 22, 2014 by ultimecea Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helvetica Standard 17 Posted February 2, 2014 Author Share Posted February 2, 2014 HUGEASS UPDATE :3 Hello everyone! It's been a very busy time at work and I hardly logged in to check things out around here. We at the staff have been busy as well, with Chocolatemilkgod slamming his head against his desk as he traverses the "editing hell", our beta testers testing the hell out of the demo, me drawing shitty sprites like there's no tomorrow and our newest member Maoh, who is hard at work with the chibi art! We are proud and happy to present you with this big update, mostly in regards to the art department. Consider this update an introductory post for the REAL surprise that I will post later today! :3 Project Violet Staff Team Members (as of February 2nd 2014) Writing, programming, scripting, design and sprite artwork: Helvetica Standard. Editor in chief: Chocolatemilkgod. Chibi artist/Chibi CG artist: Maoh QC, Beta Testing: Linkman19 Beta Testing: Yachi Lyrics for yaoi end: OMA People who wanted to help but we haven't heard of them for a while: Azada Dubs Kaguya Hazel-bun Kaskade AND NOW, THE MEAT! Welcome our newest member! MAOH! And his mad skillz for chibis! http://i.imgur.com/9HFKlHN.png Aren't they cute? Chibi art for all heroines is ready and Maoh is currently working on Chibi CG's Meanwhile Chocolatemilkgod... http://31.media.tumblr.com/c9e750f96e52b0468eeecf69a2b92ff0/tumblr_mr34rgGnTg1qk9f8bo1_400.gif LOL, wrong image! XD Anyway he is hard at work editing DEMO for v3 release and also editing the scripts for chapter 2. Meanwhile our beta testers: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Um3grmi81SA/T0cg_qPDBmI/AAAAAAAAEJU/MU_zPBf5ooY/s320/viploader462794.jpg Are hard at work of course! :3 As for me: http://www.wordans.ca/wvc-1324842456/wordansfiles/images/2011/12/25/114287/114287_340.jpg But of course! XD Anyway here is the lowdown of how I somehow ended drawing the character sprites for Violet hill. Plan A: Find an artist willing to help us do the sprites (FAILED) Plan B: Keep at it (FAILED) Plan C: Go nuts and nearly kill something (SUCCEEDED) Plan D: Go for contingency plan E. Plan E: No contingency plan. Failproof plan: "Do it yourself" And that's how I ended doing it. Such labour is going to take me ages as I'm not a very good artist but here's the progress so far anyway. XD Weapons: -Several $%& expensive books on how to draw manga/anime -Hours of youtube tutorials -My Intuos 7 drawing tablet -Faith It all started with Rin's sketch.... http://i.imgur.com/74iyIKJ.png And then outlining... http://i.imgur.com/5nYcihy.png In the end the result was better than I expected, and we got this first sprite of Rin (Alpha) http://i.imgur.com/vX6RA4G.png Thus, the ordeal continued once again with all heroines.. First sketching: http://i.imgur.com/BxDqHoy.png Then outlining: http://i.imgur.com/eect1pR.png Then applying basic colour: http://i.imgur.com/6s5oIok.png Then adding shadows and fine tuning: http://i.imgur.com/awjd07M.png But....... Eyes were a bit too plain so we decided to add some blending for a more professional looking sprites: First attempt at blending: http://i.imgur.com/vDDtPpD.png Then with proper guidance, the eye blend succeeded: http://i.imgur.com/q7osLzN.png A quick image to show progression: http://i.imgur.com/4pZSX6W.png What helped lots to do the sprites? those expensive books and YOUTUBE and its wonderful tutorials! Also Chocolatemilkgod linked Maoh and me to the winning blending tutorial: http://i.imgur.com/EeeZv2n.png And then after finishing I... http://global3.memecdn.com/so-tired_o_569601.jpg DID I MENTION HOW WONDERFUL ARE MAOH'S CHIBIS? http://i.imgur.com/9HFKlHN.png And well.. that's it for now guys. PREPARE YOUR ANUS EYES FOR TODAY'S SURPRISE WHICH I'LL POST LATER See you around! :3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneManArmy 82 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Lyrics for yaoi end: OMA Please contact me when you finished the Yaoi route so that I can write a fitting song. And I really liked that update dude. Keep up the hard work~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Harlequin 17 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Woot, those are some sweet sprites (chibis too). Well done there man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chocolatemilkgod 16 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Meanwhile Chocolatemilkgod... http://31.media.tumblr.com/c9e750f96e52b0468eeecf69a2b92ff0/tumblr_mr34rgGnTg1qk9f8bo1_400.gif LOL, wrong image! XD Anyway he is hard at work editing DEMO for v3 release and also editing the scripts for chapter 2. ... No, that's the right image. Still need QC to help 3. We'll give you cookies! PLEASE SEND HELP Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 (edited) PLEASE SEND HELP *send this to Choc* That's what you want, no? If it's not enough, I have plenty more so don't worry. Edited February 2, 2014 by Gerard the Lone Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geass 17 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 So much has been done cant wait to see the finished product! And I think its really amazing that you were able to start making your own sprites great job Helv! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hyromaru 29 Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 This update is amazing! Sprites are I can't wait for the final product!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maoh 13 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) So yeah i'm like the chibi artist for the project, i'm not as pro as helvetica to draw things on a tablet and stuff so i use the good old Adobe Ilustrator (original of course i would never download illegal stuff) yeah right chibis are by far the easiest anime-thing you can draw, they're simple, funny and cute but maoh how do you draw chibis? Well is your lucky day, i'll reveal the secret for the perfect chibi sprites! All you need: *A idea (in this case i'll use the gorgeous Morrigan Aesland) http://feb.imghost.us/ABPg.png *A model, go ahead and draw one don't worry if it doesn't turns out very good * 1-2 hours first off you'll start with something mediocre like this http://feb.imghost.us/ABhr.png Don't panic, is normal to puke somethimes Now you have to worry about her eyes, hair and accesories, don't worry about tails and long hair as long as the necesary is done Once you manage to draw the eyes and hair you'll get something like this http://feb.imghost.us/ABiG.png Still looking bad huh? no worries now focus on the clothes and body accesories, in my case it was very hard to get her wings to look acceptable, but i did managed somehow (kinda) then it would turn out like this http://feb.imghost.us/ABiX.png Yes there's no color yet, you need to know what's above and what's below so now the body is done, is time to start coloring, is easy(?) when your drawing is based on a image since you can just copy color here and there Once you managed to get over that hell it will look something like this http://feb.imghost.us/ABip.png Looking a little better right?, but is not over yet! there comes the funniest part: lights and shadows fortunately chibis don't need complicated effects, just do both on the hair, make the shadow of the hair over the face and voilà you're done of course be a little more careful and detailed with the eyes, wich is the main focus on every anime-based character So after adding the long hair and fixing some minor lines here and there i got this http://feb.imghost.us/ABmg.png It does looks pretty decent considering the 1 and a half hour i had to do it And like this, ladies and gentlemen, is how a chibi is born. Edited February 3, 2014 by Maoh Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Helvetica Standard 17 Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) Artwork update - A foreword by Chibi Artist, Maoh Well, my name is Mau. I'm a novice artist who draws during my lunch and/or free time, and I'm the chibi artist with the Violet Hill project. It’s my first ‘real’ job in regards to my hobby, but I expect the project to turn out really good considering chocogami's brain and helve's stunning drawing skills. I’m happy to be on the team, and I’ll endeavour to do what I can to help the project. I hope you enjoy the biography post that Helvetica put together http://i.imgur.com/dbo8wGT.png http://i.imgur.com/b39CR5r.png http://i.imgur.com/ZiRwF2T.png http://i.imgur.com/Vb2kzpk.png http://i.imgur.com/HHjvIkf.png http://i.imgur.com/EWHNeWI.png Edited February 3, 2014 by Helvetica Standard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Geass 17 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Yuki looks amazing Question will there be H-scenes? Not like it matters I just want to know if you are capable of drawing that. And yes not having H-scenes and voice's in your VN makes it terrible and unplayable Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OneManArmy 82 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Kagami = heterochromia + shrine maiden + misterious Oh my god! *faints* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest loppez Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 haha that leg! i see, quality is amazing. http://i.imgur.com/oA7WF2B.png Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cross 12 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 (edited) ^ hey, cut that girl some slack. I bet your man boobs aren't that well-formed either. Edited February 3, 2014 by Cross Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desi 53 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Oh my god! *faints* You forgot the best part, OMA. I named her. This is totally your favorite character now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Helve, fix that leg... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
desi 53 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You should update the changelog and put that big status on the front so some people that come here from the VNTL thread can just click on it without having to read the entire thread. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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