bellsprout 12 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Me myself plays Eroge or reading VN for many reasons except the H-Scene. It'll never be the main reason to play them. with that mindset, I introduce those VN to my sister...she loves it. and she isn't into otome either, maybe its becasue we both only read and watch Shounen manga and anime since we were small. I think it isn't that weird to find girls playing or reading Eroge and VN...well, what could I say, they are good....good enough to make me sit in front of my laptop and forget about everything else. If it could happen to me, I don't see why it couldn't happen to someone else.. but, they are such a raaaaaare existence....at least at my surrounding, there is none..*sigh* Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slasherturtle 11 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 -sigh-...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ushio 10 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 (edited) mostly men are the ones that plays eroge so it's a little weird to see a girl playing those kind of games But since weird, unique and insane is my type then I would say Helll!!! YEAHH Edited March 14, 2012 by Ushio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shadyren 10 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Wat. Girl playing eroge. I don't think it suck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shihmeng91 10 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Not sure i know any of my friend like to play ero games, but some of them willing to accept as long as good story... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaruDa 11 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Otome games suck arse. Hear, hear! Well I do like the art style of Otome games, but if you're in it for the story I think regular VNs are the way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
webdriver 10 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 stand alone opinion from me Eroge / VN / anything that looked alike, is played because of the story(main), and the graphic, sound and H-scene, just a bonus... girl play eroge, is not something weird, but it is rare.... because of that society would most likely discriminate them..... but I don;t mind with it, rather I do hope I know girl who play eroge / VN, well, need a change of mood on my home-town Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arco 10 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It's true that reading VNs isn't really a 'normal' form of entertainment, so the pool of people who do read them is relatively small. Add in that most of them have male main characters, and even less of that pool is likely to be female. This being said, there is no logical reason that a girl wouldn't like a good VN; everybody likes a good story, regardless of gender. It's just the limiting factors like male MCs pursuing heroines that give VNs a larger male fanbase. Well, that's my obvious statement for the day. Captain Obvious, awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaruDa 11 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 It's true that reading VNs isn't really a 'normal' form of entertainment, so the pool of people who do read them is relatively small. Add in that most of them have male main characters, and even less of that pool is likely to be female. This being said, there is no logical reason that a girl wouldn't like a good VN; everybody likes a good story, regardless of gender. It's just the limiting factors like male MCs pursuing heroines that give VNs a larger male fanbase. Well, that's my obvious statement for the day. Captain Obvious, awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!! Sometimes the obvious statements are the ones that need saying the most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
boricha 10 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I am female and I like playing VNs, and some of them inevitably are ero-ge. However, if the ero-ge has no real plot, and is only there to provide ero scenes for horny boys, I don't play it, because it's no fun that way :/ I have never met a girl who is into ero-ge like I am, though. It's a shame. I'm always looked at weird because of my hobbies :x Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted March 18, 2012 Share Posted March 18, 2012 I am female and I like playing VNs, and some of them inevitably are ero-ge. However, if the ero-ge has no real plot, and is only there to provide ero scenes for horny boys, I don't play it, because it's no fun that way :/ This is exactly how I feel about VNs. I'm a guy, and I'm not anti-porn or anything, but the way I see it, VNs aren't meant to be porn. It's a visual novel, and to me a novel is about the story. And I don't play only all-ages games or skip h-scenes or anything; the h-scenes are entertaining too - there's a reason so many Hollywood movies have sex scenes. Other than Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z that I watched as a kid, the first anime I watched was Kanon (the newer one), when I stumbled across it on a download site and got interested reading the description. I learned about VNs looking at information about it, but I didn't get into VNs right away. I watched Clannad because I liked Kanon, and then I was like, "This is amazing. I want more of this. I'll download the game." Then I played the game and I was like, "This is even better. Instead of just watching Clannad, I get to be in it. Awesome." (BTW, Clannad is my favorite VN and my favorite anime). Visual Novels have the same appeal as books do in that regard - you can put yourself in the place of the main character. When I'm playing VNs for that reason, the plot is the most important part to me. I also like that Visual Novels have the art and voices that books don't, but even if a game has no voices and bad art, if the plot is good I'll still like it. I mostly prefer VNs to anime because you can get into the story more when you can see how the protagonist is thinking and what drives their actions. I also like Light Novels for that reason. I've always been an avid reader, but I get distracted easily (ADD), so visual novels are perfect, because the graphics and sound keep my attention. Oh, right - I was reading this topic and saw boricha's opinion and just started replying. About girls playing eroge - I don't think it's weird at all. I find eroge fun and interesting and I'm glad to find anyone - male or female - that shares my interests. Also, since it's an interest that is mainly shared by men, it's interesting to get a female perspective. All the girls posting in this topic have given me an insight into why they like VNs/eroge. This post got kind of long-winded before I realized it, but, like Ajlez said: I was just thinking, why am I worrying about how much I write when this is a forum about games you *read* (mostly)! Well, no one has to read it anyway. This quote deserves to be on the home page. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimumknight 10 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 I am female and I like playing VNs, and some of them inevitably are ero-ge. However, if the ero-ge has no real plot, and is only there to provide ero scenes for horny boys, I don't play it, because it's no fun that way :/ I have never met a girl who is into ero-ge like I am, though. It's a shame. I'm always looked at weird because of my hobbies :x At least everyone on this site doesn't think its weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bane Doyle 10 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 Normally I would say that this is an unnecessary question, for example if this was a general gaming forum... but given the medium I am not surprised someone brought it up. Eroge is, normally, aimed at guys and the only two officially translated otome games have been work safe (and only one or two TRIALS of 18+ otome games have been translated to my knowledge). Most people who play these games are, naturally, guys. But I know MANY women and teenage girls who play visual novels, myself included. They just aren't quite as vocal as I am because, generally, they stay away from nukige and look for games with either a great story or characters they like, at least in my experience. Me? I don't give a damn either way. I've played a good number of nukige and enjoyed the sex romps for what they are, and I have played a good number of VNs that have both a large amount and a small amount of sexual content that put story of characters first as well. I've played completely work safe games as well, including the few GOOD otome games that are out (Hakuoki being the best as of yet, much better than SOME VNs I've played for guys). I just like the meduim, I am not picky and I am not bothered by sexual content at all (except perhaps rape from the main character, but that is rather specific). I may be a bit of a strange seed but eh. Take of that what you will I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaruDa 11 Posted March 21, 2012 Share Posted March 21, 2012 There was a huge lesbian on the last forum I went to who played lots of yuri games. She also seemed to have a huge obsession with Lightning Warrior Raidy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajlez 10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Even though I go for story, I tried Raidy because I thought the characters were cute, and couldn't play it because..ah..it was awful. Well, gotta try new things sometimes... My mother used to say things to me like "God I hope you're not the other way". And you know, I didn't like what GenjiChan said either ("Girls should only playing eroge otomes only"), however in time I've been able to calm my reactions and consider why things are said regardless. Logically, we don't understand each other, and that knowledge alone can't make us understand each other. I know it's pointless to "fight" against. I'm still plenty immature, though, don't get me wrong. I'm not inhuman enough to feel nothing when reading something that could make me feel bad about myself, unfortunately "Why is it trendy to like eroge now? No girls then..." Really? I've been playing them since 2000~ I did always wonder what other girls were out there playing them. . . . Sometimes I don't respond in order. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajlez 10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 ~double posting~ I should have put this in my first post, but I thought I'd find some other place to throw it. It might as well be under this topic as I dislike drawing more attention. My friend sent me this article today 5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com And with it he gave me a dialogue about how he has a secondary conscious that just wants to have sex and nothing else. It was a little difficult to swallow for me (not that this concept is new, but I usually hear people fighting it), in that it made me wonder more about how well I really know what a man is thinking. Years ago I would complain much about how, as a woman, I'm always in competition with every other woman in existence whether I desire to be or not. I will always be judged by my appearance, there will always be a hotter, and thus better, woman. This is particularly bothersome for me because I'm small and look far more meek than I let on in conversation. I often show interest in what someone is saying without saying anything, it probably makes me look confused instead, when I'm intrigued. I've never worn makeup and a comfortable bra is too expensive, so I ignore them while knowing it makes my chest look far smaller. I don't know how to do my hair. I'm unnoticeable. And I'll always be judged for it. My worth will be judged. Anger, I see that all the time. From guys I've attracted, too. I recently had a guy furious, practically having a psychotic breakdown, all because I wouldn't sleep with him anymore, even though he knows I've been in love with someone else for a long time... (and I've been away from this forum while completely botching all my encounters with said guy, cry...). Men can make me feel so... hated, in unique ways. I wonder if I really am just thought of as a walking pair of tits, even if it's not all the time. I can't separate sex from the rest of my mind. I have had thoughts that are perfectly slutty, I have thought that if I could just sleep with whoever, situations wouldn't be so tense, the world would be more comfortable, whatever. But I worry and I wonder how differently I'm regarding the world than others. It's uncomfortable to imagine it being so...separate. ...Anyway, I'm curious to hear more opinions on that article. ^^ Should I consider it bullshit that I'm in a position of power? Should I consider I am and if so how do I make it not a threatening thing? Etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
killerinsidee 14 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 There was a huge lesbian on the last forum I went to who played lots of yuri games. She also seemed to have a huge obsession with Lightning Warrior Raidy. Screw Lightning Warrior Raidy, Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o is where it's at. She should know better :> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alien 10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 ~double posting~ I should have put this in my first post, but I thought I'd find some other place to throw it. It might as well be under this topic as I dislike drawing more attention. [...] ...Anyway, I'm curious to hear more opinions on that article. ^^ Should I consider it bullshit that I'm in a position of power? Should I consider I am and if so how do I make it not a threatening thing? Etc. This is an awesome post. I've had guys actually angry with me as well, for not being interested in them. Or outright disbelieving that I'm gay, because I'm not butch. I've lost multiple male "friends" as a result. Sex makes interpersonal relationships terrible. Screw Lightning Warrior Raidy, Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o is where it's at. She should know better :> I tried playing the first one (it was the only one translated at the time, I think) but the terrible characterization and lack of anything appealing but sex had me drop it within half an hour. Raidy at least had kinda addicting gameplay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SaruDa 11 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 ~double posting~ I should have put this in my first post, but I thought I'd find some other place to throw it. It might as well be under this topic as I dislike drawing more attention. My friend sent me this article today 5 Ways Modern Men Are Trained to Hate Women | Cracked.com And with it he gave me a dialogue about how he has a secondary conscious that just wants to have sex and nothing else. It was a little difficult to swallow for me (not that this concept is new, but I usually hear people fighting it), in that it made me wonder more about how well I really know what a man is thinking. Years ago I would complain much about how, as a woman, I'm always in competition with every other woman in existence whether I desire to be or not. I will always be judged by my appearance, there will always be a hotter, and thus better, woman. This is particularly bothersome for me because I'm small and look far more meek than I let on in conversation. I often show interest in what someone is saying without saying anything, it probably makes me look confused instead, when I'm intrigued. I've never worn makeup and a comfortable bra is too expensive, so I ignore them while knowing it makes my chest look far smaller. I don't know how to do my hair. I'm unnoticeable. And I'll always be judged for it. My worth will be judged. Anger, I see that all the time. From guys I've attracted, too. I recently had a guy furious, practically having a psychotic breakdown, all because I wouldn't sleep with him anymore, even though he knows I've been in love with someone else for a long time... (and I've been away from this forum while completely botching all my encounters with said guy, cry...). Men can make me feel so... hated, in unique ways. I wonder if I really am just thought of as a walking pair of tits, even if it's not all the time. I can't separate sex from the rest of my mind. I have had thoughts that are perfectly slutty, I have thought that if I could just sleep with whoever, situations wouldn't be so tense, the world would be more comfortable, whatever. But I worry and I wonder how differently I'm regarding the world than others. It's uncomfortable to imagine it being so...separate. ...Anyway, I'm curious to hear more opinions on that article. ^^ Should I consider it bullshit that I'm in a position of power? Should I consider I am and if so how do I make it not a threatening thing? Etc. I think the article was aimed at women and any guy who used it as an excuse was just trying to save face. Regardless, it is true that we(humans)'re programmed to want sex and pretty much nothing else. I'm guessing part of the reason you find so much woman-hate on the internet is that a lot of the stuff in that article does apply to the typical internet-dweller, combined with the fact that guys who are regularly getting laid probably don't frequent forums on an hourly or daily basis. One of the points from that article that I would have to unequivocally agree with is that most guys feel like they've somehow lost their manhood just by living in the modern world. Everybody's so hyper-sensitive and everything has to be so politically correct that you can hardly cook yourself dinner these days without offending someone out there. I personally feel as though I was deprived of my manhood by growing up with parents who would punish me every time I reacted to a punishment with anger. Combine that with the resentment I feel towards my parents for circumcising me, and you have a whole mess of emotions that I don't know how to resolve. It seems natural that if someone other than me had similar emotions, that they might find themselves directing them towards females in general, however improper I feel that would be. The crux of the issue for me is that I know that(psychologically) what most women find attractive is social openness. And yet despite knowing that, I feel powerless to overcome my social fears and become more socially open, because the world is such a big place and I think so differently from other people. I'm hoping that as I progress down the path of chemical engineering, I'll be able to find a woman intelligent enough and with open enough a mind that I'd feel safe confiding in her. What's depressing about that line of thought is that my 6-year streak of no sex will doubtless have turned into a 8-year streak of no sex by then. I genuinely wish mankind had never invented agriculture, so that we could just live our short lives plagued by parasites and bloodshed, having as much sex at as early an age as we wanted, our value as a partner predicated by our social status or hunting prowess. I hope I'm not coming off as being whiny. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan. 11 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 Years ago I would complain much about how, as a woman, I'm always in competition with every other woman in existence whether I desire to be or not. Men feel the same way. We are always in competition with each other whether we want to be or not. That article is mostly true, but that's not all there is to a man's mind. All of the things in that article describe a part of the average man's psyche, but the extent to which it determines how a man thinks and acts varies from man to man. You can't assume that all men are exactly the same. Most men can control themselves, the ones who can't are rapists. Should I consider it bullshit that I'm in a position of power? Should I consider I am and if so how do I make it not a threatening thing? Etc. I don't know how to respond to this. I guess you're sort of in a position of power because men will change how they act to try to attract you, especially if they think you're hot, but like the article said, men resent that women have power over them, so if you use your sex appeal to try to make them do something they will resent you even more for it. The whole "women have power over men" thing is just how things are, and you being aware of it won't change anything. One of the points from that article that I would have to unequivocally agree with is that most guys feel like they've somehow lost their manhood just by living in the modern world. Everybody's so hyper-sensitive and everything has to be so politically correct that you can hardly cook yourself dinner these days without offending someone out there. This is definitely true. The ideal of manliness is a big strong warrior who smashes his opponents, but warriors don't even exist anymore. This is why men like things like boxing, wrestling, UFC, etc. and movies like 300. Ever heard of Spartacus: Blood and Sand? It's about jacked gladiators fighting and brutally killing each other and sex with beautiful women. It even has women tricking men with their wiles and being punished for it. Men like this show because they wish they could be those strong men having sex with beautiful women. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arco 10 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I've been sitting here struggling to come up with something to post here for about thirty minutes and I still haven't found something good enough to say lol. This topic is gigantic and I don't have the answers, as much as I wish I did. All I know for sure is that I'm a guy, I like women, and I'll probably never find one that thinks like me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryugenzawa 11 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 All I know for sure is that I'm a guy, I like women, and I'll probably never find one that thinks like me. Your Avatar suits what you just said.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hazehazy 10 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 for me,I think there's no problem if a girl is playing eroge. and about the H-Scenes I think if you don't particularly like it then it can just be skipped... when I started playing eroge it's absolutely for the H-scenes but as I discover more and more eroge I change my preferences to the story more than the H-scene,now the H-scenes are more like an extra to an eroge. and I'd really like to know a girl who plays eroge:D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hiromin 10 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Uh... what? I am a girl, I play eroge, I do like H-Scenes and I play some nukiges ("Goshujin-sama Daisuki" was the most awesome experience for me, just saying). I do not see any "problem" with this, and I am sure a lot of other girls do the same. Just that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ryu 15 Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Uh... what? I am a girl, I play eroge, I do like H-Scenes and I play some nukiges ("Goshujin-sama Daisuki" was the most awesome experience for me, just saying). I do not see any "problem" with this, and I am sure a lot of other girls do the same. Just that. *o* Marry me.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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