What is the last eroge you finished, and what do you think about it?

[desi 53]

Makina's was the first- but I expected it to be worse from the comments people write.

 

I'm wondering where the Makina = bad route talk is coming from. It's one of the higher/highest rated routes in the game.

[Uzuki Sepia 10]

I'm wondering where the Makina = bad route talk is coming from. It's one of the higher/highest rated routes in the game.

 

while Yumiko's was a bit boring -I played it last, while Makina's was the first- but I expected it to be worse from the comments people write.

 

I was talking about Yumiko's route

 

Actually i don't think I've ever read of people badmouthing Makina's route, to my knowledge is considered the best alongside Amane's.

[desi 53]

Ah, fair enough. Read it wrong.

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

Actually i don't think I've ever read of people badmouthing Makina's route,

 

I should stay the fuck away from Fuwanovel and VNDB forum so I could say the same thing too, but I can't because those people are just too entertaining.

Edited October 3, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[hansjr777 10]

I'm wondering where the Makina = bad route talk is coming from. It's one of the higher/highest rated routes in the game.

 

actually, desi...there are some...btw my bad for my previous statement...

it's just groundless prejudice...

usually people who like Yumiko's route will end up dislike Makina's route, right?

[Ditte 10]

Another Grisaia's reader join the party.

 

I'll give it an A. Entertaining. Actually, I installed and played Yumina before I installed Grisaia. However, I got bored (dunno, maybe because of my mood swing), installed Grisaia and finished it without any distractions. I still haven't touch Yumina after I neglected it....

 

 

Hmm.... What should I say.... I like Sachi's character, that's why I prefer her route over other heroines' routes. It's not that dramatic, no pew pew or anything. Maybe because I just can relax, then read and enjoy the couple's interactions, that I enjoy her route the most. I'm weak to sugar.

 

About our pseudo-tsundere.... I don't hate her character, but I don't really like her route.

 

Makina. The most busy route.... I like her "bad ending" better than her "good ending". When I know that she become the new 9029 in the bad ending, I can accept that, but not in the good ending.... I wish in the good ending she wasn't the new 9029, just live happily somewhere.

 

Amane's route is.... enjoyable, especially the "Angelic Howl" parts. Heck, her route basically is the flashbacks. Because of her route, I want to play the sequels badly.... I want to see Kazuki.... orz

 

Yumiko.... Hmmm.... Suprisingly plain. Not that I hate it, but still.... It's a disgrace for a "main heroine" or as a "Gahara-san clone" xD (Kidding). However, I like the conclusion. I like how Yuuji resign permanently and enjoying life with his new family. The last CG of Yumiko's route is my most favorite.

 

[FourZro 10]

I'm putting Grisaia on hold for now and finishing up Umineko.

 

Just finished the first 4 arcs. Pretty awesome, but the only problem I had with it is that I felt like it over-explained things and dragged on a lot, in my opinion. I know it's weird to complain about talking in a VN, but I just felt like there was a lot that wasn't needed or could've been said in way less words. Other than that, I liked it. I was worried about the big cast and maybe characters wouldn't be fleshed out enough, but no, pretty memorable and likeable cast. Also the magic elements of it took me awhile to get used to, especially after the more "realistic" Higurashi, but once I got over that it was just a pretty fun read.

 

Anyways off to Chiru I go.

[Uzuki Sepia 10]

in my opinion. I know it's weird to complain about talking in a VN

 

It's not just your opinion and it's not weird to complain, rest assured. If anything, it's the other way around.

 

 

And brace yourself, the 5th chapter has quite the epic moments (I still can't forget THAT scene XD).

[Harlequin 17]

Normally I wouldn't write a post like this, but damn, there's quite a few people reading Umineko lately who think the pacing is bad/it's too wordy/whatever. Never had that problem with it myself, seriously. But... hey, that's fine I guess. I suppose this kind of VN just isn't as well-suited for some people as much as it was for me. Perfect for my taste pretty much, just like Higurashi. Couldn't ask for more. Of course, if the next When They Cry turns out to be even better then that would just be a good thing obviously.

[Chocolatemilkgod 16]

^ Higurashi was better paced for me. Umineko starts out pretty slow, in my opinion. Couple that with the fact that I just didn't like the first episode and the premise wasn't as interesting led me to not really like it much at first... Part way through the second episode it picked up, though, and by the third episode it felt like I was reading ryukushi again (before, to me, it just lacked the same sense of mystery I got in higurashi...well at least that's not the case now ^^ )

 

I'm on episode 5 now.

[Alfadios 11]

So After finishing the UBW route of Fate Stay I wanted a short brake and came upon this VN called Saya no Uta...well although it was rather shortone(finished it in two nights),it was quite the experience...It was desfinetly holding me pushed back into my seat the whole two nights and I simply couldn`t stop reading,lthough I`m normally not into the Horror/gory stories.I also really liked the sound in this VN, I think it was always appropriate for the Scene and really fitting...made the whole VN a lot more intense.Well with that being said I would rate it with an 8.6/10.

 

Well then off to Heaven`s Feel

[spoiler=Heavens Feel]

(although some friends spoiled(or trolled) it already by saying it is the Evangelion route of Fate...being really mindfuck...well let`s see) xD.

 

And I don`t knopw If I need a spoiler tag here...but let`s be on the safe side.

 

 

 

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

I finished euphoria last night. This VN... Was something else entirely.

 

Don't let the misguided conception of the public outcry turn you away from this title. The violence/"bad things" is just a shallow part of the plot. The story/plot is really good and character development is interesting to watch. If you like really dark VNs, then this will suit your tastes. The adaption of the VN is an injustice to the title and focuses on things that this VN is really not about.

 

Someone asked Ixrec last month whether he would be interested to translate Euphoria (personally, I think it's a pointless question), and here's the answer full of wisdom and experience from one of the most prominent translator in the VN scene:

 

Have you read it yourself or are you basing this on a plot summary?

I’ve been told by trusted sources that it’s little more than a torture porn nukige, so I won’t be adding it to the list

Question is, have you read it yourself, Ixrec?

lol

Edited October 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[desi 53]

Question is, have you read it yourself, Ixrec?

lol

 

He wouldn't be the first person to judge VNs without reading them...

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

He wouldn't be the first person to judge VNs without reading them...

 

And he certainly won't be the last...

Perhaps I'm just disappointed.

[desi 53]

And he certainly won't be the last...

Perhaps I'm just disappointed.

 

You have to admit, the ero would be very boring to translate. I mean, look how long it's taken subahibi. There's a chapter that has been stalled for a while (just moved today) because of ero. That and I guess MG at least talking about it probably doesn't make anyone prominent want to translate it.

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

You have to admit, the ero would be very boring to translate. I mean, look how long it's taken subahibi. There's a chapter that has been stalled for a while (just moved today) because of ero. That and I guess MG at least talking about it probably doesn't make anyone prominent want to translate it.

 

I'm not disappointed that he doesn't want to translate it. I've already said that to even request such title is a pointless action. I'm disappointed because he apparently is among the people who reinforce and believe the stigma that euphoria is nothing more than a torture porn nukige and disregard whatever plot that the story may contains. It is ignorance and he lost a little bit of respect points from me, sadly.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[desi 53]

I'm not disappointed that he doesn't want to translate it. I've already said that to even request such title is a pointless action. I'm disappointed because he apparently is among the people who reinforce and believe the stigma that euphoria is nothing more than a torture porn nukige and disregard whatever plot that the story may contains. It is ignorance and he lost a little bit of respect points from me, sadly.

 

And if you asked moogy this same question what would he say?

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

And if you asked moogy this same question what would he say?

 

Probably the same. There's little difference between all of them, be that it's moogy, Ixrec, or even the laughable ChaosRaven when it comes to euphoria, apparently. As I've learned today.

Edited October 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

thank you, that's what i was going for, but couldn't quite explain. Every writer has their own distinguishable style. If you've played a type-moon vn before, and you started playing another one without knowing that it was type-moon, you would either figure it out or think "you know, this feels like a type-moon product." rewrite just felt inconsistent in some places. Some writers took different artistic liberties with their routes. For example,

kotarou's rewrite meter is the most inconsistent thing in there. Sometimes going all the way around won't do a single thing, sometimes only going halfway will make him inhuman.

 

 

also, i can see how this could be explained, but an example of what i mean by "inconsistent characters" would be

shizuru in lucia's route. In the common route (and other routes), shizuru is a pretty quiet person who speaks only when she needs to. As the story goes on, she slowly opens up and starts talking more. In lucia's route, she just suddenly becomes the most talkative person in rewrite who is able to not only discuss her emotions completely, but everyone else's as well. There's no development, just a drastic shift in character.

this is probably just a pet peeve that bugs only me, since it can be explained away, but i still don't like it any more than i do without one. Despite all this, i still really liked rewrite. Don't let my discussion of what i feel to be one of it's very few flaws let you think otherwise.

 

QFT

 

Okay. lol

[Guest loppez]

I'm not disappointed that he doesn't want to translate it. I've already said that to even request such title is a pointless action. I'm disappointed because he apparently is among the people who reinforce and believe the stigma that euphoria is nothing more than a torture porn nukige and disregard whatever plot that the story may contains. It is ignorance and he lost a little bit of respect points from me, sadly.

 

hoho. guy who can't read japanese talks what is good and what is not? you base your own opinion on someone's opinion and when other person says the game is bad you disagree? this is hilarious!

 

i tried to play euphoria. i dropped it after scene with excrement. could not handle more. yes it is true, the game has plot but don't be naive. there is a shitload of rape. you are attacked by so many rape, sex torture scenes that i am not surprised some people call it "just a torture porn nukige".

[Kaskade 12]

hi loppez how are you today

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

hoho. guy who can't read japanese talks what is good and what is not?

 

I do believe it's about time you stop pretending that you could read Japanese without any kind of MT assistance.

 

there is a shitload of rape. you are attacked by so many rape, sex torture scenes that i am not surprised some people call it "just a torture porn nukige".

So said the troll that claimed Comyu is as bad as Naruto and get his post deleted from VNDB for trolling.

Edited October 18, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[Uzuki Sepia 10]

Okay. lol

 

The lol thing is that the guy thinks that Rewrite has very few flaws.

 

 

A less than mediocre Tanaka and the worst Ryukishi to date don't support that statement. Probably they weren't put in the most confortable position, especially Ryukishi, but damn...

Not that I find Rewrite to be that bad, nor I would call it bad in an absolute sense, but seems to me that it could have been a lot better (not only for those two obviously, Key has its faults as well... quite a lot indeed imo, as one can desume from the "confortable position" bit).

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

I am not sure what exactly is these flaws you are talking about here, and neither can I find concrete criticisms in it. Simply saying something is bad without any examples is pretty shallows, in my opinion. (not that I'm not guilty of it in the past)

 

I guess it would be better if you could elaborate on it.

Edited October 25, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[OneManArmy 82]

Each their own.