Guest loppez Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 i would like to share my opinion with you guys. i noticed most of you dont like my statement about lolis. thats why i will explain here what i mean when i say "vns with lolis suck" major thing is plot in such games is incredibly predictable or you could say: lolis are just one big schematic. i found out, that you can use 2 ways to describe all lolis or vns with lolis. in short: lolis in vns guarantee lame plot and "thin characters". here are this 2 ways: 1. lolis that protagonist "learn love" or learn how to fuck. i think, it is about 80% of vns with lolis. (example - hoshizora) 2. vns including lolis with extremly retarded plot. (still with some part of 1.) let me give you example of such a game. Wanko to Kurasou. what is this? its a game about pets you live with and you fuck. but dont worry. they look like humans. check this. for you it may look just normal. but imagine normal guy who has never played vns. try to think how wierd it sounds. as you see this games are not only lame but also reeding them you became more stupid. CONCLUSION: lolis provides lame plot and predictable characters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiantmadness 11 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) listen, I have no 'loli fetish' myself, far from it. I personally enjoy mostly the mystery VN's. But I know that you count for example 'rewrite' and 'saya no uta' among the 'retarted loli VN'. And that's why I do not agree, you link 'lolis' to 'bad plot'. And that's where I pity you, you can't even look past that it seems... And hell, even when you disregard those games and count only the nukige loli games, what gives you the right to judge others? About your final argument about how others would look against it: I wonder what your (probably non existant) friends would think of you being on a site called 'erogegames.com' and playing h-games, (without lolis, WOW you're such a good guy) loppez. Edited April 12, 2013 by radiantmadness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Exsilon 15 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) I acknowleage that your point of argurment are true to some degree. but I dont thinks those two will made Loli VN suck That is all, if you dont like loli than dont read them simple as that Edit After some thinking both your argurments is not valid that much as I first reply 1. Learn Love? you can call that coming out of age stuff but of course we are talking about eroge here so obviously it will be about sexual stuff. Beside I thinks these lerning is made a character more cute and innocent before....you know 2. Weird plot: honestly the "weird plot" exist everywhere not only limited to loli Edited April 12, 2013 by Exsilon more opinion added Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest loppez Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 l About your final argument about how others would look against it: I wonder what your (probably non existant) friends would think of you being on a site called 'erogegames.com' and playing h-games, (without lolis, WOW you're such a good guy) loppez. not sure whats the point of this. what my firends have to do with my opinion about lolis? wtf. you just wanted to say something to offend me, didnt you? still i will answer you. my friends know i can speak japanese and sometimes i watch anime. it will be not a big suprise to them when they see me playing something like fate stay night. keep in mind some vns have good story and are not look kiddy. in that vns i play so they won't be suprised beacause i play something good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiantmadness 11 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) not sure whats the point of this. what my firends have to do with my opinion about lolis? wtf. you just wanted to say something to offend me, didnt you? still i will answer you. my friends know i can speak japanese and sometimes i watch anime. it will be not a big suprise to them when they see me playing something like fate stay night. keep in mind some vns have good story and are not look kiddy. in that vns i play so they won't be suprised beacause i play something good. really laughing now, now you're offended? Please look at all you said to others in your previous posts And the reason I said that was because you were seemingly worrying about how others look at you if you would play loli-VN's in your first post. anyhow, what are you worrying about then? If you're so self-confident about your views why do you have to state that they are correct? Just avoid the loli-VN's if you don't like 'em, and let the others free to enjoy them. Final note: doesn't fate have a loli? (Ilya or something) XD Edited April 12, 2013 by radiantmadness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Final note: doesn't fate have a loli? (Ilya or something) XD there is a loli route.. but i guess he's reading the PS2 Relta Nua~~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest loppez Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 pls learn how to read. i didnt write i am offended. Ilya was in fsn but i didnt notice loli route in fsn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiantmadness 11 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 pls learn how to read. i didnt write i am offended. Ilya was in fsn but i didnt notice loli route in fsn. you said I was trying to offend you, I merely react on that how it's (to use your words) 'retarted' to even consider that after all you said before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) isay "vns with lolis suck" plot in such games is incredibly predictable or you could say: lolis lolis in vns guarantee lame plot and "thin characters". lolis that protagonist learn how to fuck. vns including lolis with extremly retarded plot. Wanko to Kurasou. a game about pets you live with and you fuck. but dont worry. they look like humans. this games are not only lame but also reeding them you became more stupid. CONCLUSION: lolis provides lame plot and predictable characters. I believe I've to inform you that so many people consider Wanko to Kurasou a decent VN and they also happens to like lolis (myself excluded) that you probably may have angered the majority of those who are viewing your thread. forum is a place where you share your view with others and read their response. It is fine to hold a negative opinions over something, but it's annoying when the people who have it (you) will not shut up about it. reeding them you became more stupid. I believe this side effect applies exclusively to you and that explain your level of intelligence. note to admins: do not delete this thread just because you dont agree with me. >Implying that Ivan delete your comment because he disagree with you. >Implying that it has nothing to do with your behavior. Your thread fail to add anything constructive other than "loli (a physical appearance trait) caused retarded VN plot because they are lolis" and "the VN has lolis, therefore it sucks." This is just another hate thread. Edited April 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Ilya was in fsn but i didnt notice loli route in fsn. i did mentioned that you were using PS2 relta nua >.> and..there's always a loli route in most vn unless you dont have the slightest idea that is... plus..if you cant stand it.. you can always skip that route Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iLoveTsundere 10 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Ok we get it loppez , you dont like lolis. Some other people do , and lolis have nothing to do about ruining or enhancing VN plot. Lock thread pl0x. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GamefanPPG 17 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Ok we get it loppez , you dont like lolis. Some other people do , and lolis have nothing to do about ruining or enhancing VN plot. Lock thread pl0x. I agree. Its true no everyone share the same kinks but at least you should respect what others like, just like you want people respect your own interests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cross 12 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 Lock thread pl0x. NO, DON'T LOCK IT!! This is not vndb, where agressive, overly eager bureaucratic mods lock, close and censor everything that might be controversial. This place should be free, even for trolls and dicks to post their stuff. Beat 'em with your arguments or flames, don't rely on censorship. Show Yorhel and Gabe that it's just plain stupid to stop the conversations for a "clean" "hygenic" forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) This place should be free, even for trolls and dicks to post their stuff. ......I'm not sure I like where this is going. Beat 'em with your arguments Arguing with a troll? lol Yeah, let's do that, everyone! /sarcasm Show Yorhel and Gabe that it's just plain stupid to stop the conversations for a "clean" "hygenic" forum. If you were referring to "this VNDB thread", I would have to agree with Yorhel decision. It was wise of him to lock it. Edited April 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cross 12 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 lol Gerard, how come you always instantly appear and deny my points on every forum^^ What is a stupid thread? Seems like a philosophical question. I, for example, find threads like "What do you think about the user above you" completely silly and stupid. Still, many love those threads and keep them going. Do I demand a lock? No, of course not. In the end, there are basically two ways to deal with this topic: 1. All hail Overlord Dickhead and destroy everything he might dislike!!!!! 2. Well, I don't like it, but like that Polish chick said: "freedom is always the freedom of dissenters" VNDB decided to go with 1. I hope Ivan prefers 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gerard the Lone Wolf 10 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 (edited) lol Gerard, how come you always instantly appear and deny my points on every forum^^ Our community is small to begin with. I usually hang out in either VNDB or here. What is a stupid thread? Seems like a philosophical question. More like a useless thread. I, for example, find threads like "What do you think about the user above you" completely silly and stupid. Do I demand a lock? No, of course not. That thread is listed under the section "Forum Games: A must-have in any forum, play fun games with other users." Its very purpose is to be funny and silly. It would be unwise were you to demand a lock for it. In the end, there are basically two ways to deal with this topic: 1. All hail Overlord Dickhead and destroy everything he might dislike!!!!! So, deleting/locking flame, hate, and troll post/thread is now a censorship/negative action for you, Cross? Might as well remove the report button then. On a much serious note, mods or admins doesn't delete or lock post/thread unless they have a very good and appropriate reason to do so. 2. Well, I don't like it, but like that Polish chick said: "freedom is always the freedom of dissenters" VNDB decided to go with 1. I hope Ivan prefers 2. I think most people prefer a threesome. Well, I guess that's enough derailing in this thread. Edited April 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PandaeMang 10 Posted April 12, 2013 Share Posted April 12, 2013 This. Thread. Made. Me. Laugh. The reasoning is just.. Rofl. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hongō Kazuto 10 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 (edited) The lack of proper grammar gave me cancer. I hate lolis as well, but not for the same reason as you and your lack of proper sentence structure in the first post. Edited April 13, 2013 by Hongō Kazuto Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chocolatemilkgod 16 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Bahaha. I'm not keen on lolis myself, but if you're going to write about them, at least form cognitive sentences with good grammar. Additionally: "Cum hoc ergo propter hoc" In other words, correlation =/= causation; lolis don't make plots bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aynil 12 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Man I don't really get why people complain about grammar over the internet, but anyways on to the topic at hand. I don't understand how lolis are making the vns lame, they are lame because they have shit writing and that's all, I don't think whether the vn has or not lolis in it would change the factor that it has "thin" characters or retarded plot, there are vns that has lolis in them and they are not by any means bad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Otamegane 10 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I think people need to rephrase their comments to this: "Fuck you loppez and your ideals" if you don't like lolis don't just start threads about why don't you like them because its stupid. You don't make any sense in doing so. Ill say it again Fuck you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ultimecea 22 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I think people need to rephrase their comments to this: "Fuck you loppez and your ideals" if you don't like lolis don't just start threads about why don't you like them because its stupid. You don't make any sense in doing so. Ill say it again Fuck you. chill bro.. he's a super masochist flame-baiter~ he gets happy when people scold him like a dog... btw..Ivan removed most of the offensive comments from the thread few hours back~ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cru3l 13 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 *Sigh* I Just Found This... And All I Have To Say Is "WTF Is This Shit!" Over And Out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AhriFoxFire 10 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 i would like to share my opinion with you guys. i noticed most of you dont like my statement about lolis. thats why i will explain here what i mean when i say "vns with lolis suck" major thing is plot in such games is incredibly predictable or you could say: lolis are just one big schematic. i found out, that you can use 2 ways to describe all lolis or vns with lolis. in short: lolis in vns guarantee lame plot and "thin characters". here are this 2 ways: 1. lolis that protagonist "learn love" or learn how to fuck. i think, it is about 80% of vns with lolis. (example - hoshizora) 2. vns including lolis with extremly retarded plot. (still with some part of 1.) let me give you example of such a game. Wanko to Kurasou. what is this? its a game about pets you live with and you fuck. but dont worry. they look like humans. check this. for you it may look just normal. but imagine normal guy who has never played vns. try to think how wierd it sounds. as you see this games are not only lame but also reeding them you became more stupid. CONCLUSION: lolis provides lame plot and predictable characters. pls jump in this hole you aren't worthy to be in this forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffy 29 Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 Iv'e heard you hate lolis. This is what i do with loli haters! http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m66qnaUQL71r57a5xo1_500.gif Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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