What is the last eroge you finished, and what do you think about it?

[Kyokuza 10]

Yandere .. god that game is the best game ever.. not sure why maybe just my fetish awakening after 7-8 months of not reading anything in VN .

 

So.. for now let's read Kagetsu Tohya.

[radiantmadness 11]

I finished Umineko.... It's miles above anything I played before in my humble opinion. There is too much too say about it, I'll just not start about it here

The only thing I'll add for the people that also finished it is: [spoiler=umineko endgame spoilers] When I opened the catbox that is Umineko, I found the best VN ever, I hope it was the same for you

 

[Maoh 13]

I just got done with Galaxy angel ML, it was pretty good but i felt it short (maybe because i can do fights faster now)

 

 

Yandere .. god that game is the best game ever.. not sure why maybe just my fetish awakening after 7-8 months of not reading anything in VN .

 

So.. for now let's read Kagetsu Tohya.

 

God damn i was going to start yandere, but after installing it i erased the iso, dint know i needed it to play

gotta download it again :/

[Erika Furudo 10]

Hmmm starting Katahane after clearing Koihime Musou was one of my better ideas. This tranquil and peaceful atmosphere is exactly what I needed after banging each of over 20 girls in Koihime. I`m not saying that Koihime was bad... it`s just that after I finished the main story and started 2nd and 3rd play to clear rest of the characters it pretty much turned into nukiage.

 

Harem ending was nice:

[spoiler= Koihime]

 

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

after I finished the main story and started 2nd and 3rd play to clear rest of the characters it pretty much turned into nukiage.

How so? Because it has a dozen h-scenes, or because the subplot event is only an excuse for h-scenes?

[Uzuki Sepia 10]

Hmmm starting Katahane after clearing Koihime Musou was one of my better ideas. This tranquil and peaceful atmosphere is exactly what I needed after banging each of over 20 girls in Koihime. I`m not saying that Koihime was bad... it`s just that after I finished the main story and started 2nd and 3rd play to clear rest of the characters it pretty much turned into nukiage.

 

Harem ending was nice:

[spoiler= Koihime][ATTACH=CONFIG]9354[/ATTACH]

 

Beware of Katahane, it can make people diabetic (poor Tarte nonetheless, it didn't deserve to fail ).

[Erika Furudo 10]

How so? Because it has a dozen h-scenes, or because the subplot event is only an excuse for h-scenes?

 

After clearing it once, in my 2nd and 3 rd play I skipped the entire main plot and battles (no point in reading it and winning them again), and concentrated on heroines and sub-heroines that I`ve previously ignored.

 

[spoiler=Koihime]

 

In my 1st play I`ve cleared:

 

Kan`u

Bachou

Chouun

SouSou

Enshou

Sonshoukou

 

Not only they were the ones with the most interesting and numerous events, but also when I could only interact with them during breaks in main story it felt completely different.

When playing for the 2nd and 3rd time, using skip option, it suddenly became obvious that every 1 in 3 scenes is a h-scene. That made it feel pretty much like a nukiage,

well it still was a very good nukiage (except for Rikuson!! She should just be removed from the game).

Koihime is very long (vndb says more than 50 hours), but that doesn`t change the fact there are over 60 h-scenes in it.

 

 

 

 

I hope that you`re satisfied with this answer

Edited July 12, 2013 by Erika Furudo

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

After clearing it once, in my 2nd and 3 rd play I skipped the entire main plot and battles (no point in reading it and winning them again), and concentrated on heroines and sub-heroines that I`ve previously ignored.

 

[spoiler=Koihime]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]9355[/ATTACH]

 

In my 1st play I`ve cleared:

 

Kan`u

Bachou

Chouun

SouSou

Enshou

Sonshoukou

 

Not only they were the ones with the most interesting and numerous events, but also when I could only interact with them during breaks in main story it felt completely different.

When playing for the 2nd and 3rd time, using skip option, it suddenly became obvious that every 1 in 3 scenes is a h-scene. That made it feel pretty much like a nukiage,

well it still was a very good nukiage (except for Rikuson!! She should just be removed from the game).

Koihime is very long (vndb says more than 50 hours), but that doesn`t change the fact there are over 60 h-scenes in it.

 

 

 

 

I hope that you`re satisfied with this answer

Well, the reason why I'm asking that question is because pretty much every game with high sexual content or almost near high is frequently being associated with nukige by readers. "Tick Tack has a dozen h-scenes it almost feels like a nukige" is the best example for dumb statement. Its kind of a misconception. While it is true that most nukige has a lot of h-scenes, that is not the primary requirement. If you think Koihime Musou is the latter, i.e. subplot event is an excuse for h-scenes, then I think it is fine to consider the events as nukige, though it is stretching it a bit.

 

Nukige is best described as "porn without plot". Even if it has a story, both main plot and subplot is made solely for the purpose of showing h-scenes everywhere, heroines is created only to be fucked silly and doesn't develop beyond that (people can't even remember a nukige heroine name most of the times, can they?), and scenario is written only for sex purpose. That's a nukige imo. Sometimes, even if you might find a resemblances of an actual plot in a nukige, it is very very minor.

Edited July 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[Erika Furudo 10]

Well I`m not a sub-genre puritan so I mostly use the "vibe" as a basis for classifying something. In this case by using wording like "pretty much turned into nukiage" I was referring to the fact that some of the sub-heroines and their events felt as if they were specially created to lead player to a h-scenes, while other sub-characters routes only had high sexual content. If we include main plot by no means it can be classified as a nukiage. However, without it it`s dangerously close to a borderline, and that`s what I was trying to convey in my previous posts.

Edited July 12, 2013 by Erika Furudo

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

Yea, I get your point. I just feel the need to clarify it.

Edited July 12, 2013 by Gerard the Lone Wolf

[Harlequin 17]

I have also finished Umineko no Naku Koro ni Chiru (EP 5-8) now, and the whole series as a result. In fact, all of When They Cry (Higurashi + Umineko) even. Still got those two fandiscs left, Tsubasa and Hane, and also the fighting game expansion - Ougon Musou Kyoku Cross. But other than that, I'm done.

 

What to say now then...

 

I could not possibly be happier about having read and experienced When They Cry. These VNs were perfect for my taste. They are my top favourites (Umineko/Chiru being #1), for sure, absolutely, with certainty.

 

As for Umineko and Umineko Chiru specifically... well I already mentioned some of my feelings about this series in my previous 'Umineko Ni post'. But you know, might as well sum it up again because why not: For me, Umineko has the best story, the best writing, the best characters, the best music and the best voice acting. So that's -at least- five 'best' for me in this series. Yes, voice acting only applies when you read it with the UmiTweak patch. That's what I did. I also really liked the character sprite art, backgrounds and CGs (again, UmiTweak was used). All the expressions that you get to see on the characters' faces are a big deal for Umineko... and well, personally I think the PS3 sprites did it really well. It's quite subjective though whether you prefer the PS3 art or the original stuff. Sound effects also played a big role, as expected, and they were very effective... as expected . They always have been in these 07th Expansion sound novels. So no disappointment there.

 

When I say "best story", or favourite *anything*, I realize that that is not very descriptive. I know. I'm not very good at describing exactly how I feel about something in general. I repeat myself a lot. Still, maybe I'll try go into much more detail later.

 

However, 'best' is EXACTLY what I mean really. For example, it has the best story in my opinion because it's the most complex, intricate, thought-provoking, epic, multi-themed, atmospheric, mysterious and absolutely awesome story that I've had the pleasure to go through. Yes I forgot some adjectives and other stuff in there probably. It will do for now. All of this was solidified for me even more after reading episodes 5-8.

 

Loved all the OPs. Even the PS3 OPs - or at the very least the one in Chiru. The PS3 OPs are filled to the brim with spoilers though... that's a shame.

 

I don't agree with anyone thinking that Umineko Ni (1-4) is better than Umineko Chiru (5-8). Sorry, but no. I didn't have a problem with the 'end result' of Umineko, as it were... in fact, it's the complete opposite for me. I'm so damn satisfied by it. It's exactly how it should be. And I'm guessing maybe the people who didn't like Chiru as much weren't happy with how it ended? Well that's a shame for them I guess.

 

I'm actually a bit surprised by how much better Chiru was in the end. Didn't think it would be, considering the ratings it's got on VNDB. I mean, for example, episode 8? Oooooooh myyyy gooooood. Fucking amazing. The previous episodes were too for that matter.

 

You know exactly what rating I personally gave this VN. I can't even comprehend the idea of giving it less. If you're actually using UmiTweak for Umineko, then... I mean... no... NO. NOPE. It doesn't deserve less. It just doesn't. It's a masterpiece. The best VN and VN series I've ever read. I got nothing to complain about with it.

 

 

... Except ONE thing that has come to mind so far... although it's not really anything serious, hehe. And it's this:

 

[spoiler=Umineko Chiru]Chiester 556 (Go-Go-Roku).

 

She never showed up ... in "fantasy character bunny form", that is. I wanted to see her getting resurrected and show up at some point near the end, with some voice acting even. But nope, didn't happen. Obviously not a big deal, but eh, might as well mention it anyway lol.

 

http://i.imgur.com/Db2mI8D.png

 

Am I sad because it's over now? Yea... definitely. Very sad. You always want more, don't you. Even when the ending and everything is satisfying already, you still want more.

 

BUT... you know... that simply doesn't change the fact that I'm so goddamn happy about having experienced it at all. It will be an incredible memory. And hey, now I can actually go and eat up all of that fandom surrounding Umineko without getting spoiled on anything.

 

I had sooooooooooooo much fun with Umineko, When They Cry. I have never pondered about a story to this extent before. So many different emotions that you go through when reading it all. And the fucking music! GODLIKE. And the characters! Ooooh man, so many of them, so awesome, so funny, so interesting. Tellin' ya, VN BLISS. That's what Umineko is.

 

Alright, enough for now! You get the idea.

 

 

[spoiler=When They Cry]

""See you again. When something else cries.""

 

 

*thumbs up*

[Erika Furudo 10]

Harle what do you think about Umineko biggest secret?

 

[spoiler= SUPER UMINEKO SPOILER]

[]

 

[At first it was a bit hard for me to grasp that Kanon, Shannon and Beato were all created from/by Yasu.]

 

 

Edited July 12, 2013 by Erika Furudo

[Harlequin 17]

Harle what do you think about Umineko biggest secret?

 

[spoiler= SUPER UMINEKO SPOILER] http://img.kyon.pl/static/img/remiq.net_20630.jpg

 

At first it was a bit hard for me to grasp that Kanon, Shannon and Beato were all created from/by Yasu.

 

 

Oh yea, VERY interesting to say the least!

 

[spoiler=SUPER UMINEKO SPOILER][Let's be honest, Shannon and Kanon even from the beginning seemed a bit... off, with the way they talked. But also the actual events of the 1-4 episodes (which were stories/theories/message bottles). The fact that Kanon 'disappeared' in both EP2 and EP4, for example.

 

It's pretty weird though, yes. And also, not that many things is 100% certain... at all. It's a catbox. Plenty of different events *could* have happened. Plenty of things have not been confirmed. Yasu's/Lion's gender and his/her problems with identifying with it for example is a HUGE DEAL. One of the biggest mysteries in there, and a core part of the main 'problem', so to speak. I love it. It's very interesting and something that you can think about long after the VN is over with. Because when you bring up his/her gender, you also have to start wondering about the relationships he/she had with George, Jessica and Battler... ... Yasu is an intriguing one.

 

"Shkanontrice."

 

Suffice it to say, the backstory in EP7 brought this mystery right out there. And shed some light on it as well of course.

 

Despite knowing that Yasu created the Beatrice personality (which was due to her needing a new one who still yearned for Battler who never came), I never realized until reading about it afterwards that Yasu MIGHT actually be the one who was on the boat together with Battler in the Magic ending. It kinda does make sense, right? But still didn't think of it for some reason, lol. Well, *supposedly*, Yasu suicided by jumping from the boat... aaaand *perhaps* Battler actually jumped after him/her... though if that's what happened, then Battler survived anyway since he "became" Toya in the end. This also assumes then that Toya's brain damage made him completely forget about Yasu escaping with him from Rokkenjima, since he never mentioned Yasu at all to Ange afterwards.

 

[Of course, that might not be what happened at all. It's not certain. It can't be. Toya himself told Ange a kinda different story... well, who knows what really happened there.

 

[... Well, in any case, YES. I lllllike it. I like it all.

 

Edited July 12, 2013 by Harlequin

[Erika Furudo 10]

Umineko is one hell of a ride It really makes you think about what`s going on and that only increases your immersion while playing it.

 

@Harle - I bet that now you will suffer from severe "I can`t concentrate on anything, I don`t want to start anything new, I don`t know what to do with my free time, nothing is as much fun as Umineko" syndrome. It often happens to me after clearing something really great.

[Harlequin 17]

Umineko is one hell of a ride It really makes you think about what`s going on and that only increases your immersion while playing it.

 

@Harle - I bet that now you will suffer from severe "I can`t concentrate on anything, I don`t want to start anything new, I don`t know what to do with my free time, nothing is as much fun as Umineko" syndrome. It often happens to me after clearing something really great.

 

!! !!

 

 

But yea, definitely. I mean, read something else? Now? Geeeeeeeez... hard to imagine... Well to be fair, still need to read/play Tsubasa, Hane and Ougon Musou Kyoku Cross, and going to do that before moving on to anything else.

 

 

... It really is sad. Umineko is "over". I already said that in my post above and also the fact that I'm happy about getting the chance to experience it in the first place. But it's still sad that it's over, regardless.

 

[spoiler=Umineko Chiru Ending]I cried... a lot. That moment when the screen pans over all the characters and such... mmm. All the characters congratulating and welcoming home Battler - Toya now being free of those old memories.

 

I figured that it might look different from the original version of the VN when you have the UmiTweak patch applied (has voice acting, whatever the case), and since I decided to record it earlier, here you go: Umineko 'The End' (sendspace download link)

 

Just in case you or anyone else wanna check it out.

 

Didn't include the awesome ending song, but oh well.

 

[boukyaku 10]

I read the summary of Umineko on vndb and it just sounds like a copy of one of those stories where a bunch of family members gather in an isolated mansion for inheritance issues and "stuff" starts happening. Tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, really, read the story summary. How many mystery novels were made on that basis? -_-

 

On another note, the artwork I saw on vndb was a major, major turn off. Actually it's the main reason why I don't even try this game. Was this improved upon using the UmiTweak patch? I saw some comparison pictures of the same scene with and without the patch and it looks much better. Just wanted to confirm.

[desi 53]

I read the summary of Umineko on vndb and it just sounds like a copy of one of those stories where a bunch of family members gather in an isolated mansion for inheritance issues and "stuff" starts happening. Tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, really, read the story summary. How many mystery novels were made on that basis? -_-

 

On another note, the artwork I saw on vndb was a major, major turn off. Actually it's the main reason why I don't even try this game. Was this improved upon using the UmiTweak patch? I saw some comparison pictures of the same scene with and without the patch and it looks much better. Just wanted to confirm.

 

Yes, the patch has much better art. It changes the bad art to PS3 art, which is much better and not a torture to read. It also adds voices!

Edited July 13, 2013 by desi

[Gerard the Lone Wolf 10]

You should read Higurashi first before Umineko, since they are related in some way. Let's just say there's a reason why Umineko is called When They Cry 3.

[radiantmadness 11]

I read the summary of Umineko on vndb and it just sounds like a copy of one of those stories where a bunch of family members gather in an isolated mansion for inheritance issues and "stuff" starts happening. Tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, really, read the story summary. How many mystery novels were made on that basis? -_-

 

short answer: you couldn't be more wrong

[Harlequin 17]

I read the summary of Umineko on vndb and it just sounds like a copy of one of those stories where a bunch of family members gather in an isolated mansion for inheritance issues and "stuff" starts happening. Tell me if I'm wrong. I mean, really, read the story summary. How many mystery novels were made on that basis? -_-

 

On another note, the artwork I saw on vndb was a major, major turn off. Actually it's the main reason why I don't even try this game. Was this improved upon using the UmiTweak patch? I saw some comparison pictures of the same scene with and without the patch and it looks much better. Just wanted to confirm.

 

1. As Gerard said, you should read Higurashi first either way. Umineko (1-4) is called 'When They Cry 3'... and that's all I will say. There are patches for Higurashi as well in case you're wondering.

 

2. ... Well I'm not going to say too much about it right now, but: You don't know what Umineko is and what it can do, until you decide to read it. And I mean the entire series.

 

That description on VNDB? Couldn't possibly get any more basic. We should all be THANKFUL for it being so basic actually.

[radiantmadness 11]

1. As Gerard said, you should read Higurashi first either way. Umineko (1-4) is called 'When They Cry 3'... and that's all I will say. There are patches for Higurashi as well in case you're wondering.

 

It can be funny to play the other way around, but yes.... I suggest going cannon and play Higu first

[pramit 22]

read Higurashi first

hm..i started with umineko(1-4), did higurashi, then finished chiru. Now i have to finish the others higurashi chapters

 

umineko was a amazing journey. Have to agree with harle

 

the ending where you choose "trick" is so epic

 

Edited July 13, 2013 by pramit

[battlerrules 10]

Higurashi then kai then umineko then chiru then higanbana to understand every reference

[iLoveTsundere 10]

Higurashi then kai then umineko then chiru then higanbana to understand every reference

 

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[Krowiya 10]

G-Senjou no Maou - Nice story + Maou + Usami san 10/10

Snow Sakura - Not very good but i like Saki route. 7/10